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+4halcanada81 MISTY David Knackered 8 posters | |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:51 pm | |
| - MISTY wrote:
- peel bros wrote:
- I agree David with most of your points , if there is a way the government will get money off you they will, its like my drone I have to apply for a licence to use it which is pathetic. They used the excuse it was to deter the daft lads flying and causing problems. If they want to fly they will , it just punishes us genuine flyers but I have to pay or get a big fine...thats just one example from me
Would not be a very good idea to have everyone having a drone, not everyone is sensible as the idiots that threaten airoplanes show.
You have to have regulations for potential problems, how do you think a free for all would work out.
Everyone can carry a knife from birh onwards, same with a gun anything goes.
Murder, rape, people walk into other peoples homes and do what they want same in the shops, anything goes ( think a song comming on).
You have to have Laws and regulations for anything that is of concern and punishment for breaking them.
This costs MONEY people HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE.
The upholding of the Law and the punishment involved, prisons, lawyers, police all have costs as does Members of Parliament.etc; etc; etc;
If I had my way no one would have anything capable of being a menace without they had a licence and proven to be sane and responsible and to a certain extent licenses and the paying for them goes a long way to doing so.
Regards. Got into trouble recently etc Misty in certain ways with the 2nd amendment type scenario etc from Yanky land & how out of date it is by todays general living standards on average for normal folk. Brought in when most only had a single shot rifle as such to shoot cans these days the nutters can still walk into a church/supermarket with high powered type automatic weapons in Yanky land & kill everything there in seconds if they so choose . Now listening to some of that fake type news in the background as I speak here apparently, saying a person is being admitted now to hospital there on your patch every 30 seconds sadly with a virus issue. & take care. |
| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 10:57 pm | |
| Appreciate how you feel when you think, as well all do, that the Government take too much of our pennies. But when you analyse wht it makes sense,
Regards. |
| | | peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:07 pm | |
| So why not have licenses to ride a pedal bike , to use a mobility scooter which are also very dangerous I must say , it was to deter flying drones but it doesn't work . The Heathrow thing was a load of crap , when I fly my drone they know exactly where it is , where it's going ect ect , they can trace them easily. Anyway again it's just another money making ploy in my opinion. I know you have to have laws and rules and obviously I believe in that but if they can get money from you they will. By the way I might be selling the drone if anyone is interested haha .its actually getting very hard to use it now |
| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:08 pm | |
| Sad state of affairs Knackered, afraid some people have a very poor understanding of life in general and personal responsibility for their and the actions of others.
Apparently cannot understand that the anything goes senario is not one to be applauded nor encouraged.
Regards. |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:15 pm | |
| prisons are on the whole private companies, they are in it to make money .......most are not government run any more . yes of course we have to have laws, otherwise it would be total caos, but the uk is a common law country, and the people are governed by consent ,acts and statutes only have the force of law if we consent ......and mosts acts and statutes are there simply to make revenue. the police and government know that ordinary joe public know nothing about this, this is why they get away with it....... for example, the missuse of drugs act, is not called the missuse of drugs law road traffic act, not called the road traffic law , these are just a couple of examples, its too late at night to quote more ......but thats exactly what it is, an ACT, not genuine law unless we consent ......yes we can use none complience, but because our courts and police are so corrupt we dont have a chance normally, because they are all working outside the law of the land . like ray says, a drone license, just another way of making money out of the people, same as a fishing license or a street busker or traders license .....a TV license even if you do not watch the BBC, yet in other countries abroad they watch the BBC for free ........ colin ive heard that before about voting, and its very true.........if it was genuine and actually did choose who was elected, it surely would be banned ,as it is they give people the feeling they are actually deciding, when in reality they arn`t , lawyers as it happens, swear allegence to the bar, and serve the courts, they are merely there to guide us through the system, very, very few of them give a damn if we go to prison or not, they are part of the system........... |
| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:20 pm | |
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| | | peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:25 pm | |
| No I can't see it properly as the rules state . I do use a big tablet which helps enormously but its eyesight which the drone has to be seen by not the tablet , this can go 4 miles away and no human can see it that far , but a few hundred yards is enough for me . Just like it for aerial views of my loft , the local area and camping sites I go on |
| | | peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:25 pm | |
| Sorry , not for perverting lol |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:30 pm | |
| - MISTY wrote:
- Sad state of affairs Knackered, afraid some people have a very poor
understanding of life in general and personal responsibility for their and the actions of others.
Apparently cannot understand that the anything goes senario is not one to be applauded nor encouraged.
Regards. well, they could use even more of our money to bomb other countries, or to give away as over seas aid ........a few more billion of tax payers money strange they always seem to have plenty of money for this, and other lunatic ideas they have |
| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:39 pm | |
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| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:59 pm | |
| - David wrote:
- MISTY wrote:
- Sad state of affairs Knackered, afraid some people have a very poor
understanding of life in general and personal responsibility for their and the actions of others.
Apparently cannot understand that the anything goes senario is not one to be applauded nor encouraged.
Regards. well, they could use even more of our money to bomb other countries, or to give away as over seas aid ........a few more billion of tax payers money
strange they always seem to have plenty of money for this, and other lunatic ideas they have I agree entirely that some money, too much in my opinion, is spent on foreign aid etc; The fact is that there are reasons for some in an endeavour to encourage people to stay where they are and not come over here, cannot understand the aid to China though, perhaps to help to make viruses. As for war involvement, you will have to ask our friend Blaire and Co. they will all have made millions from it one way or another, but none gone to the front line You will never get an ideal means of government David developed by mankind too many different opinions and needs and intentions. Just feel for and be grateful for that you are not in Syria etc; . Regards. |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:48 am | |
| well if our government are giving overseas aid to keep people in their own countries, it aint working........there all over here.
a more effective way would be to say NO your not coming in . |
| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:04 am | |
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| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:34 am | |
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| | | barnie Youngbird
Posts : 3066 Join date : 2012-07-25
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:39 am | |
| - MISTY wrote:
- barnie wrote:
When you have to use Anarchists to attempt to strengthen your obvious blinckered ideas you have realy reached the depths.
Regards. I find nothing wrong with a lot of Anarchist philosophy, fits the bill for me, Anarchy, peace, freedom, it's the extremists and band waggon brigade that prevent it being an alternative solution in many instances. |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:24 am | |
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| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:34 am | |
| - barnie wrote:
- MISTY wrote:
- barnie wrote:
When you have to use Anarchists to attempt to strengthen your obvious blinckered ideas you have realy reached the depths.
Regards.
I find nothing wrong with a lot of Anarchist philosophy, fits the bill for me, Anarchy, peace, freedom, it's the extremists and band waggon brigade that prevent it being an alternative solution in many instances. I feel you do not know what ANACHEY is barnie. If you agree with total disorder, no rules, no regulations, everyone doing their own thing then I realy do feel sorry for you. Regards. |
| | | barnie Youngbird
Posts : 3066 Join date : 2012-07-25
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:51 pm | |
| Didn't say I agreed with everything in which Anarchy is portrayed, depends on how you interpret things, but thanks for your concern Misty. |
| | | Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:00 pm | |
| My son believes big time in Anarchy. Says in fact we are in legalise Anarchy any way. Says that why so much uprising and conflicts... the masses demanding to unleash the boundaries and let be what ever we want or do!
Me! just the opposite I guess lol. |
| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:24 pm | |
| - Daz wrote:
- My son believes big time in Anarchy. Says in fact we are in legalise Anarchy any way. Says that why so much uprising and conflicts... the masses demanding to unleash the boundaries and let be what ever we want or do!
Me! just the opposite I guess lol. Ridiculous assumption, we would be further back than the Stone Age if you believed in the stone age. Free for all would mean misery for all. Regards., |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:33 pm | |
| misty, do you think theres a possibility, life exists on other planets .......? |
| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:51 pm | |
| I do not believe there are any other life forms as we know them in our system.
That is not to say there are not other systems within the Universe that have life forms.
The universe is an inigma, the more we learn about it the less we know.
What I am certain of, life on earth in all it's forms has not come about by either accident nor evolution.
I believe 100% in creation.
Regards. |
| | | Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14506 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:54 pm | |
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| | | Daz Youngbird
Posts : 4072 Join date : 2018-07-15 Age : 76 Location : Northants
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:11 am | |
| Well, then, is Anarchy, a privilege of the wealthy and rulers. Those able to? To exploit, and commit atrocities? The riots and mass upsurges of 'Being heard', and 'Their' rights' just an organised Anarchy?! n the Ruling Classes rule' because they 'Can' regardless of others rights. Their strength against the 'Under dogs'! Are we not, and have always been a nation of 'Haves and Have nots'!
Individualist anarchists believe in the freedom of the self and oppose the authority of government. Social anarchists believe that political power and resources should be shared equally by all in a community. Both schools of thought influenced movements and events throughout the 20th century.
Anarchy is a belief system that rejects governmental authority in favor of self-governing or community consensus. It has become a synonym for chaos and the breakdown of civil order.
Anarchism as a political philosophy in opposition to the rule of government and the establishment of hierarchies. It developed fully in the 20th century, but its roots as an epithet for extremism go back further, at least to the French Revolution.
The word derives from a Greek word meaning "having no ruler." |
| | | MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: Uk Roads etc etc Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:14 pm | |
| Anarchy is a perposterous idea, how on earth could all individuals ideas and wants be incorperatd in any system that could function without perpetual conflict?.
We have rules and laws yet we still have problems.
Roll On.
Regards. |
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