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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 72 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:51 pm | |
| sent 26 y/bs 5 mile straight line 12 back in 6 hours coming single |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:39 pm | |
| had mine at seaham 11 miles got 42 out of 46 4 missing |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:32 pm | |
| No worries Steve as long as they have some food in them then they should be o.k, because if they do make a mistake they won't be looking for food, which stops them thinking about getting home |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:41 pm | |
| i give 15 of mine a short toss today and i was well pleased as they not even rangeing so i took them a mile wich is by car round the streets but it really up and then there round the the lofts ... i was pleased only one missing for 3 hours |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:48 pm | |
| Phil it is best to wait till your birds are rangeing well before training mate for me if your youngbirds are rangeing 1 to 2 hours then that is the time to start training because your birds are covering large areas of ground which helps them to use there brains |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:55 pm | |
| don i wish they would ive tryed letting them out while there batchs out and on there owne they r flying round well just wont range ... even tryed them with half feed still round loft but there flying very well best out of them is 49 mins ... so any advise would help ... there out everyday |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:05 pm | |
| Phil wwhen you gave them half feed then that may have been to little can i ask when do you have them out at what time mate |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:11 pm | |
| i try to get them out for 11ish as sky is empty if not then it about 1ish and there out for a hour ... but today i started once they come down stright in with no pecking around garden .... |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:24 pm | |
| Phil sorry to say this but can you get them out between 6 or 7 o'clock, the only reason i say this is because the pigeons are freasher and fly better early morning compared with midday
Plus you have more of a chance the youngbirds will get hit by trainers which will take them and then they get pulled from the loft which in turn makes them use there brains getting home and this can also help build there confidence |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:31 pm | |
| yea i can but at that time done everyone round me as there old birds out from 6 am and then there in the batch for a while and then im in same as they have done what ever with them that y i started letting them out as late ... |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:44 pm | |
| O.K Phil, just trying to get the youngbirds work in better for you, can you try and see if you are in a position to see if trainers come racing across your loft and lets say, let your youngbirds out ten minutes before the trainers then see how they shape up and see if the trainers can take the youngbirds and make them work |
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phil411 Youngbird
Posts : 1117 Join date : 2009-11-23 Age : 47 Location : teesside
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:54 pm | |
| i will give it ago don early morning .... |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:03 pm | |
| Good for you mate, it's only an idear Phil hope it works for you |
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geordiejen Hatchling
Posts : 386 Join date : 2010-03-09 Age : 52 Location : clydebank
| Subject: Re: bad training Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:05 pm | |
| its a wonder yous guys get any time to go to work with all these training tosses. |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 72 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: bad training Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:30 am | |
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Grizzle cock Hatchling
Posts : 570 Join date : 2009-04-18
| Subject: Re: bad training Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:38 pm | |
| Learn them to go home fast. Use the method of Chanco , training at dusk. |
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steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 72 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: bad training Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:30 pm | |
| - Grizzle cock wrote:
- Learn them to go home fast.
Use the method of Chanco , training at dusk. just remembered that from 20 years ago, gradually releasing later each time so street lights on when they return, learns them to fly later |
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Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 56 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: bad training Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:35 pm | |
| Went training with a nmate yesterday, realeased 75 pigeons at 4.30..11 miles 2hours nothing then 3...we had 27 between us on the night. My friend is 15 away and Im 9 away...the joy of training in south wales. Our birds were flying 2 hours a day around the house before this toss and had 3 schooling tosses. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: bad training Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:33 pm | |
| Spot on there Grizzel was a good read with loads of info |
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