hi david... hi ray

hiya how are things this evening

hi darren, hows the birthday and trip to blackpool go ? didnt ask the other night, how many ybs have you got ?

it went well thank you, had a bbq yesterday for some friends etc and then took her too the zoo today had a good day............ive enjoyed the rest 2days off since xmas, ive 26 ybs

2 days off.....?workaholic...lol family comes first though darren and we all need money to live. so you are going to just race them so far and stop the ybs are you ?depending on the moult or just stopping them anyway ?

ive been doing too much somedays im doing 17 hours so need a break but things will be sorted just after xmas as was left with quite afew bills to pay for my ex wife , and im on top of them now nearly..................... ill just see how things go with moult etc as not been on darkness this year

hard to do the darkness if your work hours arnt the same, when i start next year hopefully i will be able to put them on dark....had quite a lot of time off work this year with wife poorly so ill have to see what happens next season , fit the darkness hours in somehow i hope as by what ive heard its the best way to race them....

hope you wifes ok david................................... im not too bad with getting to birds etc as i can drive right down land to pigeons so go upto lofts and sit inbetween jobs but this year wasnt going to race as ive had 3 years of hell with my ex wife including lossing a £500,000 house that was all in my name and everything was sorted finally in april and it felt like a great weight being lifted off my shoulders and all the keenness came back to get back racing so evrything was last minute

thats it darren, when there are other problems on your mind pigeons have to take a back seat dont they......pigeons are ok when there are no other problems as they take up such a lot of time to manage them properly. now thats out of the way youll be able to concentrate on your racing now and by the way your obs raced you should/will do well with the ybs. are you on the ets or normal clocking ?

them 2 race i had this year i borrowed a t3 as i sold my clocks earlier this yearas ive installed ets in the lofts but im in 2 clubs and the club i sent to do have ets facilities

in my local club they dont allow ets , its only normal clocking there.....so im after just a cheap clock at first as i dont want to spend a lot on a clock as i dont know how long i will race for at the moment......just wanted to give it a go as it was years ago when we raced and been wanting to give it a go again while i still can, dont want to get old and not be able to do it...

yes i know what you mean lol

been quite expensive restarting.....didnt realise it would be. when you consider having to buy everything from drinkers, nestboxes etc and then a loft and birds, it all adds up doesnt it.

it does david but worth it in the end really

yes your right darren, thing is when we packed up my brother took every thing as he was still racing pigeons.....but like you say everything is mine now so once ive got everything there will not be continuall paying out for things apart from introducing stock every now and then.

yes true mate

darren, are you restarting again then after the split from wife or new to pigeons ?(dont think you are new to pigeons tho)

restarting racing with a new breed , i used to have all direct camphuis and pouw pigeons until ex let most out, i still have some direct pouws but they are loaned out to a friend in the north east............ ive had pigeons all through the split but my head wasnt right etc to get back to racing as had hassle all the time

thats right darren, pigeons take a lot of time and effort to manage and race them correctly and if home life isnt right youve no chance......i was supposed to start this season with ybs butwith other problems on i decided not to bother, but hopefully it should be ok next year...

yes they need 100% to race succesfully