winners and eyesign

i always enjoy looking at the eyes, i rarely handle my birds but when i do i always look at the different type of eyes they have .......... at one point i liked to pair opposite types together, but over the last few years i dont bother and just let them pick their own mates .

i'm a bit like yourself david, probably just a habit when handling them, but I think you can see intelligence level in some pigeons, they just have that "look" in their eye. Also I like a pigeon that looks you in the eye as you move around the loft . More interested in behaviour like that than eyesign theory.

Show winner yesterday, rows and rows of birds all gleaming like this one, don't know how a winner was found they were all immaculate. Full credit to the exhibitors , the dedication must be on par with racing fanciers. Great to see this side of the sport .

chat many times with Alice Bell on facebook when not sure if 2 gifted birds were show pigeons she was telling me they had 3 firsts and i think 2nds at the show

George & Morgan wrote:

chat many times with Alice Bell on facebook when not sure if 2 gifted birds were show pigeons  she was telling me they had 3 firsts and i think 2nds at the show

The Bells have been the tops for a long time.

The dedication they put in is second to none.

Think  when the odd time they get beat is because their pigeons are too recognisable.

Would never have the guts to pick a winner when you see  the quality of all the entries.

Think maybe going the show road may not be a bad idea for the sport.

Is there a video of the show George

Regards.

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think it was the Doncaster show ask Barnie

Do not think they had any actual shows at Doncaster George, think barnie went to the one up North.

Regards.

was it at South Shields which show was at Doncaster

Do not think they had any actual show classes at Doncaster George.

Think barnie meant the Up North one.

Still plenty of clubs etc; having shows.

Regards.

yes this was NEHU show at south shields yesterday

stunning bird if i get back into pigeons i think i would like to go down the show racer route ,agree about the dedication aspect of show racers colin

lot of traveling i was in S RS in the Midlands and SRS in south Wales in 80s

oldstrain wrote:

stunning bird if i get back into pigeons i think i would like to go down the show racer route ,agree about the dedication aspect of show racers colin

Only a fool would suggest I suggest O/S the best of the show racer type group & the like don't have the same total dedication factor with what they do with their birds on show day as such, compared to those maybe somehow putting them in a race basket etc to win.

MISTY wrote:

Knackered wrote:

MISTY wrote:

All the eyes are different George, the cere may be similar which is bound happen at times but the
rest of the eye is different.

This selection of eyes proves winners have good bad and indifferent eyes according to the theory.

The only eye of any real quality according to the theory is the pigeon on the right of the first two.

Regards.

Intriguing part for me down  here I'm when looking at the overall picture of all the winners is the sad story being told there from my perspective of what I was first told down here 30 odd years ago was apparently the Mighty Up North Combine type thing by my Geordie mate at the time. Now, those that may be confused here with

my thinking study the first bird shown as an example & perhaps tell
me what sad story does it maybe send there, for what was once the Mighty Up North Combine as such apparently.

Noted that Knackered, not enough for a decent club race.

Unfortunately the only races with large numbers are the OL races, well until the mile stage.

Just glad I had the best years in the sport.

SAD

Regards.



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Went surfing down here Misty being somewhat curious to a degree about the bird in question etc & what perhaps what was not told/said or what was maybe hiding behind the picture as such. Wish somehow I hadn't type thing as what a sorry tale unfolded unfortunately in certain ways by what I found. Combine race from 500 odd miles 300 odd pigeons & a tail wind with the winner there in the 1200 range & at least 18 different federations involved in the final result there apparently. Which if one wished to be cynical somehow one could perhaps say in a certain way they had on average, 18 federation winners at the end of the day maybe & an average of around 15 to 20 birds there if your lucky in each race as such. In the end credit to all the federation winners there type thing but really speaking trouble in paradise comes to mind here for me I'm with the Mighty Up North Combine of yours there if what I found by being curious was remotely true, sadly. End of the story as nice as the combine winner in question is give me the runner up there any day as my type of pigeon I suspect being a bit of a loner type on the day there apparently by what it did in flying so far on it's own apparently to achieve what it did in the end.  

barnie wrote:

yes this was NEHU show at south shields yesterday

is the show through wires or handling colin .......?

our club shows are always through wires, i remember when they used to be handling classes years ago but they dont seem to do that now .

David wrote:

barnie wrote:

yes this was NEHU show at south shields yesterday

is the show through wires or handling colin .......?

our club shows are always through wires, i remember when they used to be handling classes years ago but they dont seem to do that now .

handling as far as I remember david

all classes are handling unless it says THW

George & Morgan wrote:

all classes are handling unless  it says THW

You know I love you George as always & always will here But you somehow have done it again I'm with your THW type thing above    .

MISTY wrote:

George & Morgan wrote:

chat many times with Alice Bell on facebook when not sure if 2 gifted birds were show pigeons  she was telling me they had 3 firsts and i think 2nds at the show

The Bells have been the tops for a long time.

The dedication they put in is second to none.

Think  when the odd time they get beat is because their pigeons are too recognisable.

Would never have the guts to pick a winner when you see  the quality of all the entries.

Think maybe going the show road may not be a bad idea for the sport.

Is  there a video of the show George

Regards.

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In certain ways I suspect Misty showing at a top level is just as cruel as race day type thing, at the top level. Many are deserving of the first prize as such but their can in the end only be one winner type thing .

Do not envy the judges their tasks Knackered.

But think the powers that be have set standards for the judges to go by and look for faults rather than anything else, but the vast majority of show birds are a wonder to behold sports wise.

Then it no doubt becomes what the judges like best if several are equal.

Cannot think of a better way.


Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Do not envy the judges  their tasks Knackered.

But think the powers that be have set standards for the judges to go by and look for faults rather than anything else, but the vast majority of show birds are a wonder to behold sports wise.

Then it no doubt becomes what the judges like best if several are equal.

Cannot think of a better way.


Regards.

Agree bit pointless if they maybe gave out a first prize card to everyone deserving type thing .