The use of garlic in pigeons?

It is a popular, widely used product, but solid, scientific information on its effects in pigeons seems to be scarce. Everything from cloves of garlic to powders, pills and oils are available in health food stores, grocery stores and by companies selling products for pigeons. Are there any real benefits, or are the "benefits" in the eye of the beholder, i.e. the fancier who uses garlic products? Everyone seems to have an opinion, but are there many facts? Little scientific information for racing pigeons seems to be readily available, but it should be possible to extrapolate information from work done in humans and laboratory animals to pigeons.

Firstly (and foremostly), logic based on a number of studies, says that the very best source of the good effects of garlic is fresh cloves of garlic. Manufacturing procedures in the preparation of garlic powders, liquids and oils can vary considerably, and since important, active compounds in garlic can be lost very easily when garlic is processed to produce these liquids and powders, etc., it seems best to avoid these products as they may contain few, if any, of the useful compounds in garlic. Further, it is best to crush cloves of garlic, and add them directly to drinking water for pigeons, rather than heating or boiling them, to avoid losing a number of key chemicals in the cloves. Remember that heating garlic cloves above 60oC (140oF) can cause the loss of odour and medicinal properties.

Secondly, garlic may provide a temporary antibiotic effect on disease-producing bacteria, fungi and yeasts, both in the digestive tract and body tissues, by reducing their numbers during the period that it is in the drinking water. Thirdly, the trace minerals selenium and germanium present in garlic may give a boost to the immune system of pigeons, to increase their ability to fight disease-producing organisms of many kinds. In domestic livestock, selenium is known to be important in the normal development of the immune system while the animal is growing in the uterus. A deficiency of selenium and Vitamin E has a definite adverse effect, because in such deficiencies, the development of the immune system is retarded. As a result, the newborn animal or bird may be completely or severely restricted from protecting itself against invading organisms of all kinds.

Fourthly, although dissolving blood clots (the cause of heart attacks and strokes in humans) or preventing their formation in the arteries of humans is important in human medicine, it is known that racing pigeons are highly resistant to the buildup of fatty substances in their arteries. In humans, these fatty substances may clog blood vessels or they may induce the formation of a clot at the point where the vessel is narrowed by the fatty deposits, and result in a heart attack or stroke. In contrast to racing pigeons, some meat-producing breeds of pigeons are very susceptible to a buildup of fatty substances in their vessels. So garlic might be of benefit to meat varieties of pigeons, but as racing pigeons are highly resistant to this type of buildup, the benefit might not be so great in the blood vessels of racing pigeons.

Fifthly, garlic as a de-toxifying agent could have a role as a "blood purifier" or a "tissue purifier", so to speak -- whatever these phrases may mean, since they can and do cloak a great deal of the ignorance we all share on this subject. Both are meaningless expressions that really don't explain anything, but they are used commonly in the mystique of pigeon racing! That aside, there are indications that chemical compounds in garlic may assist the body to de-toxify, neutralize or eliminate noxious substances. In pigeons, the use of garlic after a race may assist the so-called "depurative" diets -- whatever that might mean -- in restoring a bird to normal racing condition. Whether lactic acidosis is a real problem in returned racers is still debatable, in my opinion. Because fat is unquestionably the major fuel for racing, and because the burning of fat for energy by racing birds is an aerobic process in the body, lactic acid-- which results when glycogen is used as fuel in an anaerobic process -- should not be produced, at least in any great amount. Braking and landing at the end of a race are very likely anaerobic processes, but the amount of lactic acid produced from such rapidly occurring events should be miniscule. In theory, if it could be shown that birds actually sprint the last few miles of a race, much as a human marathon runner might sprint the last 100 yards or so, then there could be a good basis for believing that lactic acid -- one of the so-called "impurities" in the blood -- is produced, and that it needs to be eliminated. Lactic acid is known to be produced in human distance runners who sprint the last leg of a race. However, in most cases, usually a 20 minute "cool-down" walk will effectively "burn off" or eliminate the lactic acid from the system. It is known that pigeons that are not exercised reasonably soon after a long grueling race may develop marked swelling of the breast muscles that become hard and board-like. The birds become "tied up" and have difficulty flying from the floor to the lowest perches or nest boxes. Given this knowledge, it is possible, and indeed likely, that lactic acidosis is involved in such situations and that early workouts after a race would eliminate this problem. It is also possible that the use of crushed garlic cloves in drinking water at this time might add some extra benefit in allowing the liver and other organs to metabolize lactic acid and other compounds, and to help restore the birds to normal racing condition. I am aware that there are certain claims by fanciers about the use of garlic in dealing with problems in the respiratory (breathing) system of pigeons. Unfortunately, there was just nothing in the literature that was available to me to indicate that garlic was useful in dealing with the sinuses, trachea (windpipe) or lungs. This is not to say that garlic isn't useful in these organs - it's just that I didn't read any reference to the effects of garlic on the respiratory system. Dosages of garlic for pigeons are difficult to come by, particularly since there is such variability in the amount of the key chemical, allicin, (which is converted to the active compound allicin), in garlic cloves.

Garlic in racing pigeons remains quite an enigma, and as fanciers, many of us use it without really knowing why, but our ignorance is shared by many people, including the human and veterinary medical communities, who have only tantalizing bits of information to suggest that there may be a number of positive effects from the use of garlic. Certainly, as indicated earlier in this article, studies in laboratory animals and humans suggest a number of desirable effects from the use of garlic. Whether these effects apply directly to racing pigeons is just not known at this time. However, present evidence from human and laboratory animal work, and the empirical experience of many fanciers, suggest that, when used judiciously, crushed cloves of garlic, used in drinking water, may be a useful product in the loft throughout the year, but especially during rearing and the racing season. At present, garlic-based oils, powders and pills are likely much less useful. Possibly newer developments in extracting the active principles of garlic may get around the present problems associated with current methods. Until these problems are solved, fresh cloves of garlic from the grocery store are still the best source of the medicinal properties of garlic. I hope that this sketchy outline of the potential value of garlic, and some of its risks, may stimulate more controlled research on its value (or lack of) in racing pigeons. There is much to learn! This merely scratches the surface

very interesting reading rene, i used to use garlic 24/7 in the water but havnt used it at all this year.........instead ive been using quite a bit of honey, but might use a combination of garlic, honey and cider vinegar next year.

i also ude iodine once a week maye its ment to help keep the intestines clean i got told to use it buy an old fancier im looking for info on that at the moment

i think i got told to put some bicarbinate of soda in the drinkers rene, after racing.........cant remember why but he said it flushes them out i suppose we will hear alsorts of advise wont we......

yes mate thats for sure

the best way to use garlic is use it for 2 weeks then fresh water for 2 weeks
it works better that way , also i use bicarb every week through out the season on
a sunday some people knock it because its old school but each to there own .
ps the new avatar is the father of the blue what was on befor this old man is 10 years old
and been clocked from pau .

hi kev, so what do you/they give the bicarb for ? lovely cock in the avatar, have you had him for a long time or has he been a recent purchase over the last few years ?

bicarb like you said flushes them out but also if you use it every week
it keeps the canker levels down one level tea spoon in the drinker .
the cock in the picture i got of navigator on pigeon chat two cocks and one hen
all krauths they took a while to lay but once settled down they bred some lovely yb
all 3 are 10 years old .

both look nice pigeons kev, yes i remember navgator on the sites................dont seem to have seen him around much tho, is he still on chat etc ?

he moved to poland last year to work had a sale sold every thing
now he says he is starting back up in england again , he did tell me the pigeons were only on loan
now he says i can keep them nice chap he lives in plymouth . by the way david did you get the email
i tried to send last night my email account is not set up so my son sent it on his hot mail account .

is it for pictures of your show entries kev ?

Right lads,

been thinking of adding garlic to my birds water, and just wondering what amount of cloves do you add to the water?

when i used it i would add one crushed clove per drinker (3ltr) and would leave it in untill it went soggy......altho i did change the water every day.

same here david exept i just cut mine in half

DAVID wrote:

when i used it i would add one crushed clove per drinker (3ltr) and would leave it in untill it went soggy......altho i did change the water every day.

Thanks, mine will be done the same although i think my drinker could be 5ltr would I still just use 1 crushed or 1 and a half?

yes alex, i would say so as you dont want it too strong tasting for them......plus ive heard too much can stain/make the wattles greasy. would you agree rene ?

DAVID wrote:

yes alex, i would say so as you dont want it too strong tasting for them......plus ive heard too much can stain/make the wattles greasy. would you agree rene ?

Yep, exactly what I was thinking. Don't want it strong for them, or do any harm.

i have heard that too much cider vinegar isnt nice for them either, i add 5ml per litre and it seems ok but you dont want it too strong..........plus as far as i know too much of it isnt good for them either.

Good information collected Rene

DAVID wrote:

is it for pictures of your show entries kev ?

hi david, no i just wanted to test sending them through to see if you got them . cheers kev

kev d wrote:

DAVID wrote:

is it for pictures of your show entries kev ?

hi david, no i just wanted to test sending them through to see if you got them . cheers kev

ah right, ill have a look kev...........ive about 2,000 emails not read so far

Bussy Man David

looked at them today don and there was 1,896 new emails..........unread im just going to delete them all

look through them David Im shore there is one that says you have 126 milleon pounds at leist I thing its you