probiotics

i use a probiotic yoghurt on the corn twice a week does anyone think that the ones on sell made by the pigeon product manufacturers are any better or are they just another gimmick to line their pockets

find yakult is as good as any ,i only give it after treatment mind you everyone to there own

there was a artical in the rp or bhw a few weeks ago
the human probiotic did not contain some of the avian strains of lactobcillus and beta glucan to help with the natural intestinal flora
i have used entero-plus probiotics for years with good results 3 times a week in the water or corn
its a must after treatments as some of the good bacteria will be lost

do you use the probiotic for humans or for pigeons

pigeon stuff entero plus is made by medpet i used to use entrodex
i have used morrisons own make probiotic & prebiotic and natural yoghurt

redwhitepied wrote:

pigeons
i wouldnt spend £20 on me haha birds first

think you misunderstood me steve do you buy it from supermarket or corn merchants

is that "magic" a probiotic.....?

DAVID wrote:

is that "magic" a probiotic.....?

i think so mate

I used strike one year but couldnt tell if it did any good or not, so I think not. We have a parot and my son after eating yogherts gives him the pot and he loves them, but not sure if its anygood for him either ..but its not bad. So I use nothing like this really, I would like to know if anyone thinks they are good....JUST ONE THING THOUGH.....We have conifer trees in our drive and there are collar doves roosting in them, in fact they are there most days, I have noticed on the grass under where they roost a pile of droppings and they are perfect...If my birds droppings were as good I would be a happy man. They are always in the field and sometimes I wonder what the hell they eat when its cold wet or snowy, as they are always on the telegraph poles. And they dont get probotics and thats why I dont give anything like that.

when you treat martin you kill some of the good bacteria in the pigeons so by giving yoghurt you put back what you have taking out its a must after treatment in my opinion

read in an article by a top flyer, he treats for canker then 3 days of honey in the water, then treats for cocci and then 3 days of honey again in the water...........thats it nothing else...

im still giving my birds honey three times a week, i think its great stuff.

i give my bird my credit card shes more than happy lol

birdy2011 wrote:

i give my bird my credit card shes more than happy lol

she doesnt even see her own, ive got it................

good idea dave ill get hers lol

she doesnt even know the pin no..............

best way too, i need it for buying pigeons.

Im a honey man too david, every week they get it twice during racing, I only give it once a week in winter or every day when the weathers freezing. They love it first thing in the morning when drinkers are frozen, then I warm the water and put the melted honey in, you can see them taste it and go back for another drink. its magic, I see now on TV they have seen its magic properties in medicine and have started using it on wounds as it heals them up. I remember seeing a programme on TV in egypt where they found a tomb with some jars, when they opened them they were full of honey, the chap said it was so well preserved after 2 thousand years it was edible...point made.

hi martyn, i give it tue, wed and sat all year round......only time i dont is when the drinkers are frozen as it would just be a waste, i also put the usual 5ml per litre of cider vinegar in with it.

birds look well enough on it anyway.

You and I are very similar david, I hardly use any products, but honey and cider vinegar are 2 I also use, but I think you must go easy on the cider vinegar maybe 2/3 times a week in the water is enough. they need fresh water some days, especially if using products on the corn, I think on these days fresh water is a must. I think the birds look better and benifit more from the cider vinegar if given less often, but its a must in hot weather when bacteria is rife.

rudderfett wrote:

Im a honey man too david, every week they get it twice during racing, I only give it once a week in winter or every day when the weathers freezing. They love it first thing in the morning when drinkers are frozen, then I warm the water and put the melted honey in, you can see them taste it and go back for another drink. its magic, I see now on TV they have seen its magic properties in medicine and have started using it on wounds as it heals them up. I remember seeing a programme on TV in egypt where they found a tomb with some jars, when they opened them they were full of honey, the chap said it was so well preserved after 2 thousand years it was edible...point made.

Always used it on pigeons was saying this when first on here always used it in the water on there return back from a race as there first drink, this helps there recovery rate and replaces there low sugur levels as we all know sugur is energy

Honey is the best thing out there for your birds

The bio probiotic yougurt for humans is good for the youngsters in the water you can get this from any supermarket

Hi don Happy new year.

rudderfett wrote:

Im a honey man too david, every week they get it twice during racing, I only give it once a week in winter or every day when the weathers freezing. They love it first thing in the morning when drinkers are frozen, then I warm the water and put the melted honey in, you can see them taste it and go back for another drink. its magic, I see now on TV they have seen its magic properties in medicine and have started using it on wounds as it heals them up. I remember seeing a programme on TV in egypt where they found a tomb with some jars, when they opened them they were full of honey, the chap said it was so well preserved after 2 thousand years it was edible...point made.

Martyn will say if you don't mind i would't use boiling water on your honey only very luck warm just enough to dissolve it in the water, as with using boiling water you distroy some of the good bacteria's mate

rudderfett wrote:

Hi don Happy new year.

Hi Martyn Happy New Year to you and your family also mate

Thanks

Another good thing is natural yogurt on the corn this helps keep the cocci count down

Thanks for that Don, I do use boiling water perhaps I wont in future. makes sense never thought of that