shocking news

i have heard news of a fanciers birds being poisoned by concentrated garlic given to him by a freind who works in the food industry ....he put 3 tea spoons on his corn and hopper fed his stock and in 48 hours 101 birds have died .....costing him thousands in lost stock and many years of dedicated breeding and some multiple prize winners....so the moral of the story for me is never take a chance on what you give your birds.this must be heartbreaking for the guys involved and i feel so sorry for them

must have been something else in the liquid didnt think they could die with garlic overdose

me neither ian..........

Concentrated garlic, doesnt really work, especially if it has been cooked in any way, as it takes the most active property out of it. Allicin. There must have been something else present.

yes this is what we are saying

super concentrated garlic maybe mmmmmmmmmm i wonder what to much sulphur in a pigeon would cause but have to say i think something else must have been present in the garlic

It's a great tragedy for the fancier, that's why i do all my own preparations. Garlic I just usually put it under the blade of a knife and crush it, then add it to the drinker.

i just peel a clove and put it in the drinker

these flyers are called apleton and longstaff are they from the north east
i think some one said they are so you might know of them ray and ian .

Do you give them a pro-biotic afterwards Ian?

by what ive read about this it seems they put three table spoons of this concentrated garlic oil into a bucket of corn, surely this is a lot anyway i would have thought.............

not decrying them, its a terrible thing to loose your birds in this way, i do feel for them.

I'm not sure the Garlic caused the deaths.

is it possible to overdose on garlic ? what could be in it to cause this.....?

I've never heard of it before. but it can sometimes knock out some of the good gut flora. There had to be something else in the concentrate. I think they need to send it off and get it analysed.
Have a read of this,
http://pigeonbooks.com/index.php?r=14&c=73&l=en

yes interesting gary, i think they could do with getting one of the dead birds tested to see......i know it wont bring them back but i do think it would be of benefit to know what killed them............

I Sure HOPE we get a "TRUE" answer about what caused a loft FULL of birds to die

wierd but every fancier uses garlic in the water so must have been somthink else in theere with it ?

Ive used for years mate, but only fresh cloves, ive never heard anything like this happening before,

sad news . Why do fanciers give theyre pigeons garlic ? The onlky animal ive ever heard of eating and i have done so myself is marine fish as it increases appetite and immunities to parasites . Is this the reason ?

Question for Penny--Why do you "NOT" give your pigeons Garlic?
What medications do you give your Birds??
PLEASE help us Old Timers Out.
Have I been doing my birds WRONG for the last 35 years?
I kept 2 Cock birds for 20 years--What could I have done to keep them longer????-PLEASE tell me where I went WRONG?

garlic is, so im told a natural antibiotic......and can help stop such ailments as cocci and digestive problems.

Sky Tx wrote:

Question for Penny--Why do you "NOT" give your pigeons Garlic?
What medications do you give your Birds??
PLEASE help us Old Timers Out.
Have I been doing my birds WRONG for the last 35 years?
I kept 2 Cock birds for 20 years--What could I have done to keep them longer????-PLEASE tell me where I went WRONG?

Excuse me?
I asked a question -didnt say you were doing wrong did i?

Penny--Don't beleive all you Hear or Read
"My pigeons can pull a fright Train-couple them up"

David wrote:

garlic is, so im told a natural antibiotic......and can help stop such ailments as cocci and digestive problems.

Wow didnt know that .
Has anyone had success killing Coccidiosis with garlic , its really hard to shift in other birds but never heard of Garlic being used .
Im genuinly intrigued before anyone jumps on me

i dont think anyone can really say its definately stopped such things as cocci etc, but maybe users could assume that by not catching it one year it was down to the garlic.......i dont know so dont quote me on it.

it is supposed to be beneficial tho` and is a natural antibiotic.........also honey is good for pigeons as this has healing properties too.