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seanl Youngbird
Posts : 2399 Join date : 2011-09-04
| Subject: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:57 pm | |
| what system do members fly y/bs on i e natural darkness double darkness light system or winter y/bs paired or on w/hood and how did they race and what losses where like sean |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:40 pm | |
| hi sean, as you and the members already know im new back to racing.....i only had three races this season just gone and had my ybs on the darkness system, i think its better than natural because they moult quicker in the body and hold their wing flights which gives an advantage as they are not dropping to bits with the moult half way through the yb season and can fly all the program up to the longer races.
ive found with my dark birds that they were reluctant to exercise up until taking them off the dark when the clocks altered, then once they got going they were easily doing 2 hours exercise and ranging..........i never lost any ybs training and only lost 3 racing after starting with 11 ybs. |
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seanl Youngbird
Posts : 2399 Join date : 2011-09-04
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:53 pm | |
| - David wrote:
- hi sean, as you and the members already know im new back to racing.....i only had three races this season just gone and had my ybs on the darkness system, i think its better than natural because they moult quicker in the body and hold their wing flights which gives an advantage as they are not dropping to bits with the moult half way through the yb season and can fly all the program up to the longer races.
ive found with my dark birds that they were reluctant to exercise up until taking them off the dark when the clocks altered, then once they got going they were easily doing 2 hours exercise and ranging..........i never lost any ybs training and only lost 3 racing after starting with 11 ybs. yes David i have found that most lofts fly the darkness or double darkness systems to great effect with few losses compared with the naturals i would not worry about them not flying much its race day you want them flying tired birds win nothing lol sean |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43895 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:02 pm | |
| yes sean this is what i think about them not flying too, i will let them out every day and if they want to fly they can....and if they dont they dont, simple as that because all the while they are getting their bearings and getting used to their surrounds.
once the darkness stops i will make them fly like i did this season and within a few days they will be up and off flying. i must say that this season just gone my ybs were flying extreemly well, they were ranging and exercising for 2 hours plus even without flagging them as this is something i never do.........and because they were ranging so well obviously they were getting to know the area and who knows how far they were going ...??? it must have done them some good because i never lost one ybs training. |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 61 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:32 pm | |
| What system do you fly Sean. I fly on the natural system, I leave the loft open 24/7. If they want to leave they can. I don't bother to train much these days, as it does tend to tire them out a little. I do however have a good selection process for racing. It's called the basket. I open it, who wants to race goes in it, who doesn't can stay. Some weeks I only take one or two to the club. If I lose them it doesn't matter, they know the phone number. I write it their wing, just in case, they forget it. I'm not really too bothered about winning races, it's the taking part that counts. I am however always glad to see them return. If they don't it's OK. I have more. |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13151 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: walter doxc....dam of fed winner Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:20 pm | |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13151 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:21 pm | |
| sorry that was supposed to be a new topic...i,ll swap it over |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:27 pm | |
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 64
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:28 pm | |
| wouldnt be ray if he didnt balls something up ian lol |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:30 pm | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:43 pm | |
| - ian wrote:
- ffs ray get a grip
lmfao |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Thu Dec 01, 2011 5:50 pm | |
| bred end of jan then straight on the darkness and i never split cocks and hens last year will keep it the same this year |
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cawdy Chipping
Posts : 143 Join date : 2010-04-07 Age : 36 Location : Craigneuk lanarkshire,
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:57 pm | |
| flown the natural system for years as the old yins focused more on the distance so that plan was to just hang on to the ybs and wee didnt race any a few years ago and the yearlings did quite well but now trying to coax them onto the darkness sys as i think if your going to race them why not try and win. - oldstrain wrote:
- bred end of jan then straight on the darkness and i never split cocks and hens last year will keep it the same this year
a Q for you old strain......when do you find your ybs peak if you don't separate them. i was thinking of separating erly and pairing them later on so they would be set up for our feb open race and the SNFC yb national |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:02 pm | |
| - cawdy wrote:
- flown the natural system for years as the old yins focused more on the distance so that plan was to just hang on to the ybs and wee didnt race any a few years ago and the yearlings did quite well but now trying to coax them onto the darkness sys as i think if your going to race them why not try and win.
- oldstrain wrote:
- bred end of jan then straight on the darkness and i never split cocks and hens last year will keep it the same this year
a Q for you old strain......when do you find your ybs peak if you don't separate them. i was thinking of separating erly and pairing them later on so they would be set up for our feb open race and the SNFC yb national i did not race in the first 2 yb races but in the last 5 yb races i won 3 of them the 3rd 6th and 7th races so towards the end of yb racing they peaked i won a few other placings aswell and each time with a different bird ...this was my first season racing ybs so cant say this is a tried and tested way of racing ybs but if it aint broke why fix it ,so will be doing the same this year.i think breeding that bit later stops them pairing so early and my ybs started to pair half way through the programme which was ideal for me. |
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cawdy Chipping
Posts : 143 Join date : 2010-04-07 Age : 36 Location : Craigneuk lanarkshire,
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:19 pm | |
| yea thats what we are hopefully going for this year. weaned by no later than feb and possibility a few later bred ones for test mating and stock
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: y/bs systems Mon Dec 05, 2011 4:29 pm | |
| so long as their weaned by mid march they can go straight on the dark |
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