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PostSubject: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 1:11 am

Can't see how I can make any darkness system work but I've heard of a light system. Need some tips on making that work.
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 1:18 am

Don't really remember --but I think I let the birds have 12-16 hours of light ever day. Don't remember for how many days or when I started but it worked very good for me.They went thru the moult very good and the body feathers also fell out.
I think CBS PIGEONS have a video about the light System.
OR maybe GOOGLE it.
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 1:58 am

I think Alex Bieche has a light system were yb are born and raised on 24 hours light.
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 8:41 am

there was a dvd samson brothers light system on ebay
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 10:47 am

why dont you think you cant make the dark system work raftree.....? what reason is there why it wont work.........
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 10:49 am

where are you from raf
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 1:51 pm

I'm sure the darkness systems work, its just that with my schedule and my loft set up it appears that I need another system to try. What ever I can do to get the moult in hand by YB season.
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 2:09 pm

are you in the usa then or uk
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 3:17 pm

Sorry.....I'm in the US. Thought those in the UK may have some "brilliant" ideas.
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 3:22 pm

there will be some on later mate but you can aways addapt the hours to suit your work thats what most do here there is no set hours
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 3:26 pm

basic light system

Young Bird Light System - Step By Step

November 15th

Put lights on for 12 hours. Pair up breeders.
Once paired and settled to boxes, separate.

December 6th

Put breeders back together with 12 hours light.
Give bowls and nesting material.
Hens should lay around the 16th.

January 1st

Increase lights to 16 hours. When youngsters hatch increase lights by 5 minutes a day Until you reach 18 hours.
When you reach 18 hours youngsters will be 24 days old, and Ready to wean to Y.B loft. Leave Y.Bs on 18 hours light until you turn off. Mid April. Do not exceed 18 hours.

February 14th

Young birds will cast 1st flight. Cut two tail feathers – pull 14 days later.
Feed 20% barley morning – after exercise.
Give 20% chicken lay pellets. Remove all uneaten pellets, as old birds will eat these.
Evening feed 60% moulting mix 3pm.

February 28th

Young birds will cast 2nd flight.
Pull the two tail feathers.

March 14th

Young birds will cast 3rd flight.

March 28th

Young birds will cast 4th flight.
Any young birds not cast 3rd flight – cut 9th flight.
Remove corn and water for 24 hours, and then give a full feed of barley with Water/4ml cider vinegar per litre.
Next day 50% barley and 50% malting Mix.
Continue with water/cider vinegar for up to 5 days.

April 11th

Pull 9th flight, if been cut.
Young birds will cast 5th flight.
Any young birds not on 5th flight – cut 10th flight.
Noticeable body moult should be apparent.

Weekend Mid April

Turn off all lights – lock down all young birds for 6 weeks. After 2 weeks allow Liberty for a couple of hours – do not force flying – repeat 2 weeks later.
Morning feed 10% barley – 10% pellets.
Main feed – midday as much moulting mix as they want but remove after ½ hour.
Offer red band or similar.
Only visit to feed and water.

April 25th

Pull 10th flight – if been cut.
Young birds will cast 6th flight.

May 8th

Young birds in very heavy moult and on 7th flight

May 22nd

Young birds on 8th flight.
Still in heavy moult –head-body-tail

Last Weekend of May

End of shut down – allow liberty, but do not force flying for first week.
Then flag if not flying for at least 30 minutes.

June 12th

Young birds on 9th flight. Looking fantastic.

July 1st

Young birds on 10th flight. Body moult complete.
Get them flying at least 1 hour per day.
When disappearing for long spells start training several short tosses to start with. Then increase at will (separate) cocks from hens.

July 7th

As many tosses as possible from 10-20 miles.
Allow hens in with cocks every Saturday for 3-4 hours.
Then separate and feed in own compartment.

July 14th

Young birds should be flying strong up to 2 hours.
Give 4 tosses – 25 miles, 20 miles, 40 miles, 50 miles.
Sat, Sun, Tues, Thurs weather permitting – in batches of 10-15.
From now on keep them flying on a regular basis for at least 1 hour a day And 2 training tosses from 25 miles.
If not flying well increase training tosses Amount not distance.

First Race

Feed all young birds 10am. Remove uneaten corn 11am.
12 noon put hens with cocks until you basket for the race – Do Not Disturb Until just before basketing then quietly observe birds that are in the boxes together.
Repeat for all races.
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PostSubject: Re: Light system for YB's   light system - Light system for YB's EmptyFri Dec 09, 2011 4:10 pm

Thanks so much. I'll try to follow this to the "T".
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