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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: the light system Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:25 am | |
| any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks |
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shippy Hatchling
Posts : 757 Join date : 2012-02-25 Age : 75 Location : darlington
| Subject: Re: the light system Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:09 am | |
| you need a daylight bulb switch on from 7pm until 10pm best of luck
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:23 am | |
| thanks for your reply shippy I think it will do the trick just want the ybs to hold their feathering for extra 2 weeks it could be a good alternative to darkening breeding later and lights ...see how it goes not got much choice this year anyway |
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Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
| Subject: Re: the light system Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:18 am | |
| When I bred foreign finches I used to use a dimmer timer switch, started to go off at 10 pm and took 30 minutes to go dark completely, worth a try Daz, think you can still get them in b&q, if I remember I only paid a couple of quid for it. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: the light system Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:26 am | |
| as you know Darren, ive not had much racing experience, but ive heard of fanciers putting the lights on with young birds to stop them moulting towards the end of the yb season.....I think that was when they had been on the dark, not sure about natural..... |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: the light system Sat Feb 13, 2016 5:51 pm | |
| Daz the best one to ask would have to be John McGee who does the French OLR
There was a video done on him and he comments about his own light system
He had his youngsters on 23.5 hours of light |
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friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 66 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: the light system Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:16 pm | |
| Something i have not tried would be interesting to see how it works out though Ken |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:47 pm | |
| thanks for the replies lads |
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devo56 Youngbird
Posts : 1257 Join date : 2015-02-22
| Subject: the lighting system Sat Feb 13, 2016 8:46 pm | |
| - oldstrain wrote:
- any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks
So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:02 am | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:35 am | |
| - devo56 wrote:
- oldstrain wrote:
- any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks
So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult. aiming for 5 races minimum dev if they hold their feather for more it would be a bonus ,its a trial which has been forced upon me as my new lofts erection got delayed |
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devo56 Youngbird
Posts : 1257 Join date : 2015-02-22
| Subject: the lighting system Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:40 am | |
| - oldstrain wrote:
- devo56 wrote:
- oldstrain wrote:
- any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks
So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult. aiming for 5 races minimum dev if they hold their feather for more it would be a bonus ,its a trial which has been forced upon me as my new lofts erection got delayed Right Daz i see, think i would rather have light than the dark myself, for the birds health getting all that light, can only be a good thing for their growth and development. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:52 am | |
| - devo56 wrote:
- oldstrain wrote:
- devo56 wrote:
- oldstrain wrote:
- any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks
So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult. aiming for 5 races minimum dev if they hold their feather for more it would be a bonus ,its a trial which has been forced upon me as my new lofts erection got delayed Right Daz i see, think i would rather have light than the dark myself, for the birds health getting all that light, can only be a good thing for their growth and development. I will keep this post updated dev with my findings for those interested it could be a good alternative ... |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:11 am | |
| Darren, is it the light system for young birds your thinking about...? sorry I thought you meant stopping the ybs from moulting at the back end of the yb season to enable them to finish the season.... if I remember rightly gaz b did the light system and I think it means you need to keep the lights on all of the yb season, not just like darkness when you take them off before racing...... could be mistaken tho`.... |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:17 am | |
| - David wrote:
- Darren, is it the light system for young birds your thinking about...? sorry I thought you meant stopping the ybs from moulting at the back end of the yb season to enable them to finish the season....
if I remember rightly gaz b did the light system and I think it means you need to keep the lights on all of the yb season, not just like darkness when you take them off before racing......
could be mistaken tho`.... yes david just want to get a few more weeks out of the back end of the season by putting lights on after the longest day in june until after they have been basketed for their last race ,so lights on for july and august until 10pm |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:24 am | |
| ah right, that's what I originally thought you meant.....lol, to be honest when i have raced ybs and had them on the dark ive found mine wernt moulting badly enough around the time of the last couple of races to either stop them or turn lights on.....why this is i don't know, they could have easily raced the full yb season without doing anything.....i don't know if this is because the parents were paired up in February, or because i put them onto dark later than some other fanciers, or maybe does it make a difference if they are weaned straight onto the dark, rather than when the clocks alter...? i don't know...... our yb season starts around 23rd july if that makes any difference...? |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:34 am | |
| no what I mean david is having naturals pairing end of febuary hatching out late march early april weaning late april early may and putting lights on after longest day in june only from about 7pm to 10pm without the lights I am sure I will get 5 or 6 races but for an extra 2 races maybe the lights will hold off them moulting just for those last 2 races |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 9:40 am | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 10:54 am | |
| no I mean ybs david |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:45 pm | |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:29 pm | |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: the light system Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:31 pm | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:51 am | |
| quite simple lads pair old birds end of feb then have weaning ybs around end of april ,keep them natural until the longest day in june after that put lights on in the loft from about 7 to 10pm until racing ends |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: the light system Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:10 pm | |
| does that stop them moulting Darren...? |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: the light system Tue Feb 16, 2016 7:46 pm | |
| - David wrote:
- does that stop them moulting Darren...?
yes we are hoping so only for a matter of an extra 2 or 3 weeks racing I know a guy that does this regular and he does extremely well and allways gets the ybs to the last race |
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