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PostSubject: the light system   the light system EmptyThu Feb 11, 2016 9:25 am

any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySat Feb 13, 2016 9:09 am


you need a daylight bulb switch on from 7pm until 10pm best of luck
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySat Feb 13, 2016 9:23 am

thanks for your reply shippy I think it will do the trick just want the ybs to hold their feathering for extra 2 weeks it could be a good alternative to darkening breeding later and lights ...see how it goes not got much choice this year anyway
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySat Feb 13, 2016 10:18 am

When I bred foreign finches I used to use a dimmer timer switch, started to go off at 10 pm and took 30 minutes to go dark completely, worth a try Daz, think you can still get them in b&q, if I remember I only paid a couple of quid for it.
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySat Feb 13, 2016 10:26 am

as you know Darren, ive not had much racing experience, but ive heard of fanciers putting the lights on with young birds to stop them moulting towards the end of the yb season.....I think that was when they had been on the dark, not sure about natural.....
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySat Feb 13, 2016 5:51 pm

Daz the best one to ask would have to be John McGee who does the French OLR

There was a video done on him and he comments about his own light system

He had his youngsters on 23.5 hours of light
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Something i have not tried would be interesting to see how it works out though study
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySat Feb 13, 2016 6:47 pm

thanks for the replies lads Smile
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PostSubject: the lighting system   the light system EmptySat Feb 13, 2016 8:46 pm

oldstrain wrote:
any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks

So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult.
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 12:02 am

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Daz the best one to ask would have to be John McGee who does the French OLR

There was a video done on him and he comments about his own light system

He had his youngsters on 23.5 hours of light

I would hate to be paying his power bill etc Don Wink Wink if living here. The price  is that bad now Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad  I'm using candles to cut my costs down. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 8:35 am

devo56 wrote:
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any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks

So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult.

aiming for 5 races minimum dev if they hold their feather for more it would be a bonus ,its a trial which has been forced upon me as my new lofts erection got delayed
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PostSubject: the lighting system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 8:40 am

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any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks

So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult.

aiming for 5 races minimum dev if they hold their feather for more it would be a bonus ,its a trial which has been forced upon me as my new lofts erection got delayed

Right Daz i see, think i would rather have light than the dark myself, for the birds health getting all that light, can only be a good thing for their growth and development.
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 8:52 am

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any members who have tried it ...or have any previous knowledge of it ,thinking of extending the light after the longest day in june not thinking of pulling flights and going that far with it just want to get extra 2 weeks on the road out of the naturals ...thanks

So Daz would this method take your right to around the 12th september, before they go in heavy moult.

aiming for 5 races minimum dev if they hold their feather for more it would be a bonus ,its a trial which has been forced upon me as my new lofts erection got delayed

Right Daz i see, think i would rather have light than the dark myself, for the birds health getting all that light, can only be a good thing for their growth and development.

I will keep this post updated dev with my findings for those interested it could be a good alternative ...
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 9:11 am

Darren, is it the light system for young birds your thinking about...? sorry I thought you meant stopping the ybs from moulting at the back end of the yb season to enable them to finish the season....

if I remember rightly gaz b did the light system and I think it means you need to keep the lights on all of the yb season, not just like darkness when you take them off before racing......

could be mistaken tho`.... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 9:17 am

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Darren, is it the light system for young birds your thinking about...?  sorry I thought you meant stopping the ybs from moulting at the back end of the yb season to enable them to finish the season....

if I remember rightly gaz b did the light system and I think it means you need to keep the lights on all of the yb season, not just like darkness when you take them off before racing......

could be mistaken tho`.... lol!

yes david just want to get a few more weeks out of the back end of the season by putting lights on after the longest day in june until after they have been basketed for their last race ,so lights on for july and august until 10pm
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 9:24 am

ah right, that's what I originally thought you meant.....lol, to be honest when i have raced ybs and had them on the dark ive found mine wernt moulting badly enough around the time of the last couple of races to either stop them or turn lights on.....why this is i don't know, they could have easily raced the full yb season without doing anything.....i don't know if this is because the parents were paired up in February, or because i put them onto dark later than some other fanciers, or maybe does it make a difference if they are weaned straight onto the dark, rather than when the clocks alter...?

i don't know...... Question Question

our yb season starts around 23rd july if that makes any difference...?
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 9:34 am

no what I mean david is having naturals pairing end of febuary hatching out late march early april weaning late april early may and putting lights on after longest day in june only from about 7pm to 10pm without the lights I am sure I will get 5 or 6 races but for an extra 2 races maybe the lights will hold off them moulting just for those last 2 races
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 9:40 am

ah right, old bird racing....... lol!

I get you now ... Razz Razz cheers
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 10:54 am

no I mean ybs david lol!
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 12:45 pm

scratch scratch scratch


I give up......... lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 11:29 pm

lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptySun Feb 14, 2016 11:31 pm

its getting to confusing now confused confused confused affraid affraid
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptyMon Feb 15, 2016 9:51 am

quite simple lads Laughing pair old birds end of feb then have weaning ybs around end of april ,keep them natural until the longest day in june after that put lights on in the loft from about 7 to 10pm until racing ends Smile
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptyTue Feb 16, 2016 7:10 pm

does that stop them moulting Darren...?
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PostSubject: Re: the light system   the light system EmptyTue Feb 16, 2016 7:46 pm

David wrote:
does that stop them moulting Darren...?

yes we are hoping so only for a matter of an extra 2 or 3 weeks racing I know a guy that does this regular and he does extremely well and allways gets the ybs to the last race
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