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friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 66 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:53 pm | |
| david what i use is a natural antibiotic called propolis , this is put in the drinker for two days, then they are given multivits on the 3rd day Ken |
| | | Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 56 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:12 pm | |
| I agree with both you lads, firstly it doesnt matter how often you scrape you still might get it, but a clean loft makes it harder for infections to get established and stay in the loft...again once racing starts they are gonna suffer others birds, but treating every week seems a bit harsh to me so I just let them get on with it. |
| | | friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 66 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:15 pm | |
| hi Martyn dont get me wrong they are not treated everyweek, but i will do them the first 2 races and as you can see i use a natural antibiotic to treat with Ken |
| | | Rudderfett Youngbird
Posts : 2152 Join date : 2009-09-27 Age : 56 Location : pembrokeshire
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:40 pm | |
| I got you ken yes that makes a lot of sence, seems to be similar to me. By the way I think your exchange birds could be ready this week, see how they come on now but looking like its later this week so we might get something sorted otherwise you might not get them for another week. |
| | | friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 66 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:52 pm | |
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| | | IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:44 pm | |
| Young bird sickness has spread rapidly around the world in recent years, causing severe losses among young birds.
Pathogen: This is a mixed infection, involving viruses and bacteria (especially E.coli and cocci, but also protozoa). The pathogens are transmitted by air, dust and contact between birds, as well as via communal drinking water and feed. Outbreaks of the disease are promoted by stress factors such as weaning, the introduction of strange birds into a loft, vaccination, heat (accelerated bacterial growth, water shortage), training of juveniles (basketing) and young pigeon flights.
Symptoms of the disease: The disease can take two forms:
Sudden death not preceded by any perceptible signs of illness: A typical scenario sees young pigeons released from the loft for their daily training (on a hot summer's day, perhaps), whereupon they fly around for an hour and then return to the loft. They land on the roof or on the alighting ledge, do not respond to the breeder's attempts to entice them into the loft, and die within the space of a few hours.
Death preceded by visible signs of illness: During the period between the onset of symptoms and death (lasting from 3 days to 1 week), the following symptoms are observed: lack of activity, puffed-up plumage, refusal of feed, swelling of the crop, weight loss, greenish-yellow faeces in puddles, vomiting.
Recognition of the disease: Owing to the numerous pathogens involved in this disease, it is only possible to make a tentative diagnosis.
Similar conditions: E.coli infection, Hexamitiasis.
Treatment: There is no vaccine against young pigeon disease that could be used to prevent infection. However, sick pigeons can be treated with adenosan. And timely use of adenosan may also prevent an outbreak of the disease in birds suspected of infection. 1. adenosan is used: For at least 7 days at the first symptoms of young pigeon disease. If the disease is only recognised at a later stage, it is additionally necessary to use a chemotherapeutic agent with antibiotic activity (preferably furazolidon+) in order to contain the bacterial infection. The active ingredient furazolidone has been shown to possess specific efficacy against E.coli infections in the gut.
2. adenosan is used in the following situations, where there is reason to fear infection as a result of contact with other young pigeons: For a 7-day period when introducing new youngsters to the flock. During the flying season, for 3 days after flights.
3. adenosan is used when a disease outbreak is likely as a result of a challenge to the immune system: In connection with vaccinations (paramyxovirus infection, Salmonella, pigeon pox) - for 3 days before immunisation and 4 days thereafter.
4. adenosan is used where a change in gut flora predisposes birds to a disease outbreak. When treating birds for trichomonads, we recommend parallel administration of adenosan over a period of 7 days, beginning 3 days prior to treatment. |
| | | steve1952 Youngbird
Posts : 2459 Join date : 2009-12-01 Age : 72 Location : Newport isle of wight
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:22 pm | |
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| | | peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13151 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:25 pm | |
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| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:41 pm | |
| ken, where can i get this product you use.....? any pigeon supplies.....? |
| | | friendsloft Youngbird
Posts : 1999 Join date : 2009-03-17 Age : 66 Location : Warrington
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:42 pm | |
| David any herbel shop, or health shop Ken |
| | | IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| | | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:44 pm | |
| ah right, thanks ken......... i think i will do the same as if this helps it is worth doing as by what ive heard about yb sickness it is a very nasty illness..... |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: youngbird sickness Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:28 pm | |
| - friendsloft wrote:
- hi Martyn dont get me wrong they are not treated everyweek, but i will do them the first 2 races and as you can see i use a natural antibiotic to treat with
Ken ken, when you say you give yours it for the first two races i presume this is because its the first contact your birds have with other fanciers as you train them yourself..........i will be starting my ybs off myself but then they will be going with the club training so would you treat before racing starts as they will be in contact with other birds much earlier than the first couple of races......? |
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