Darkness Vs Light and Natural Systems.

thing is gaz they looked that well and advanced my mate who came to train um left um and said to the mrs tell the t**t its y/b racing lol he thought i left old birds in the basket

They all used to comment on mine at the club.
Then accused me of cheating when they won
Give it another go mate.
I used to train mine with the older ones on the longer tosses.
My mate reminded me today about a time I took mine to 70 miles for a toss and no sooner did I let them up, it hail stoned massive ones at that.
Funnily enough I never dropped a bird.

yes i will garry these were trained well never misses always on time

the only thing differant to the others was they were in another loft but fed the same

thats why ill try it again just to bloody find out what went wrong

then again my mate sent 23 birds on darkness this year all were well i can asure you he got 3 home must be just a bad day mate

A bloody bad mate, by the sounds of it.
We have a race point like that, Cheltenham, I call it the Bermuda Triangle. Not just me, but quite a few fanciers from where I used to live, always suffer bad losses.
I have gone to open races, asked where the race point is and they have said Cheltenham. I've just put my birds back in the car.
Let us know G, how you go on if you try it again and need any second opinions give us a shout mate.

cheleton is 72 miles for me gary and yes for a lot a desater point

glad you brought that up because our race on the light was doncaster

its a hell hole yet i took them there and they came

so like you say back to drawing board

Another Chapter for the book.

think all pogen men can write a book gaz well not me i cant spell lol

but in general the good times and helping seem to have gone with most not all

we all need to take a look at our selfs there are still good pigeon men who help others

but the big boys will come un stuck trust me the chinks are gona come here with healthy birds cheap and no one will want a belg or uk bird

called home work they have it right

I think there are lots of fanciers out there, that could mate.
But if they did it would only get rubbished by the pigeon mafia.
There's still lots of unselfish pigeon men out there, myself included, who are willing to help others.
The explosion is going to happen right enough.
They are already buying all the best blood.
It will be good to see the almighty fall.
The Chinks are coming mate.
Ive already applied for the job

roll on the day when they wipe out the overpriced studs with birds much better

lol gaz telll me ya got the job cus ya can spell better than me

shit must educate my g/kids more

got one now very clever took a book home of show birds he called today

and said g/dad get me a cropper lol

Alex wrote:

roll on the day when they wipe out the overpriced studs with birds much better

cant talk about ray like that alex ill tell him lol

birdy2011 wrote:

Alex wrote:

roll on the day when they wipe out the overpriced studs with birds much better

cant talk about ray like that alex ill tell him lol

pmsl

seriouse alex years ago you went to mates after race

and never told what time you were in so down to the last clock you
stayed at the club now 1 clock opens they all go

ive only 1 set of people to blame for this and thats the old gits bless um

they go up to lofts in the sky poor sods must look down on us today laffing

oh if theres ever a 1 loft race in heaven get a ticket quick they woll show you

how to get birds home

You've had it now G. I can see the croppers in your back garden. LOL
I wish mate, I can spell sh**e in Chinese
But would love a job like that, managing lofts for a big international company Dream on.
Ray is the exception, he's a nice pigeon man.

I remember when my mate Kev lived across the road and we flew in the same club, I used to purposely let a pigeon go and then start whistling and shouting come on.
He'd sprint over to my house, out of breath and ask which bird it was, I'd be creased up, laughing and then tell him my dropper.
Two minutes later, I'd do the same thing.
He never learnt
Where's the fun gone.

yes i do agree with you g but its one thing its changed for today and thats money....people arent helping with sites like pipa 7 grand for a bird thats nothing but a name on paper surely thats not the way to be going and its gradually shaping the sport

and i agree gaz, ray is a nice bloke and a top fancier aside from all the joking we have with him but its all in fun really along with the other lads on the site ofcourse top lads on here

your right alex but you are the new kids on the block us oldies just want to send now
and we will beat the big boys but the younger well the sellers will end you fun

money money money

hey heres 1 for you there must be 100 of adverts in bhw eack week for products none say it will make you win then again they alll claime its the best now ill tell you
a trick i learnt in sales make it look good shout from the roof if it works ya mates wont tell you if it dont work they still wont cus they feel prats paying 30 quid for something that dont and there club mates laughing

next tip take it from me a well motivated bird makes its own form you can not and never will build it from products loke a bird can horse human or greyhound

birdy2011 wrote:

your right alex but you are the new kids on the block us oldies just want to send now
and we will beat the big boys but the younger well the sellers will end you fun

money money money

hey heres 1 for you there must be 100 of adverts in bhw eack week for products none say it will make you win then again they alll claime its the best now ill tell you
a trick i learnt in sales make it look good shout from the roof if it works ya mates wont tell you if it dont work they still wont cus they feel prats paying 30 quid for something that dont and there club mates laughing

next tip take it from me a well motivated bird makes its own form you can not and never will build it from products loke a bird can horse human or greyhound

Your right there G

AS is said money spoils things

We oldies have protested for too long.
It's up to younger ones, now. To set the standard and not be intimidated by high prices of pigeons.
With the right education and right system, they certainly can give the money men a run for their money.
What does get my goat, is when you show someone how it's done and they do well, winning races, they soon fall into the sell your pigeons for lots of money category.

Gaz b wrote:

We oldies have protested for too long.
It's up to younger ones, now. To set the standard and not be intimidated by high prices of pigeons.
With the right education and right system, they certainly can give the money men a run for their money.
What does get my goat, is when you show someone how it's done and they do well, winning races, they soon fall into the sell your pigeons for lots of money category.

Gary you completley spot on there mate

Plus they also forget were they came and don't give recognition to the person or people who helped them to get to the top

im try darkness this year any tips to not get yb sickness ?

Theres loads of fanciers that would love to know the anwser to that one mate

lvlasked wrote:

im try darkness this year any tips to not get yb sickness ?

i agree with don, but i was told this season gone to feed light after they come off the dark, i dont know if it does anything but mine didnt get yb sickness that season..........

i have been told feed them well before there due to go on the dark so there no corn in there crop and also what you said david feed them light when they come off for the first 2 weeks and help build them back up slow

i think its partly due to them not digesting food, it then gives them some sort of bacterial infection which attacks the digestive system...........ive heard some fanciers feed too late therefor giving not enough time to digest the corn properly before darkening the loft.

this is only what ive been told, hear or read.....dont shoot me.