roland jansenns

is anyone succesful with this strain?

no not yet,i have a few now but no success but they do come alright,i have ended up with mostly hens,the cocks seem to go down easily as ybs but the hens totally different

I Brought a pair in last year, took 6 y/bs out of them , got one left a Hen, the pair have now gone

This is the young Hen Ive kept, thought she might be worth a try as a yearling
Ken

hi Ray
I have restarted again after about 12 or 13 years without pigeons.I bought some off Louella, sons, daughters, & grand children off some of the top birds.
will be breeding off them for the first time this year.

heard mixed reports about these birds ...was told the rode bingo line is best ,i have handled some of these birds and must say the feathering was spot on and coming from louella thats a feather in their cap jmo

i must admit mine are very strong birds and i have kept them together for 2 seasons,i will split them this time to see if they improve,but i do like them

the jury is still out for me, although they are really nice birds. I still have two left out of 6 one has never put a foot wrong.
Will test um this year though.
We have crossed many of um this year just to see how they perform.

For good "SLICK" feathers---give the birds FLAX seed. I give 25 birds a teaspoon full ever day.
TheY will get so Slick it will take Both hands to hold a bird.

Gaz b wrote:

the jury is still out for me, although they are really nice birds. I still have two left out of 6 one has never put a foot wrong.
Will test um this year though.
We have crossed many of um this year just to see how they perform.

Got a Gson of Kleine Jos real handful and only 8 months old. Although Kleine Jos was a big winner for RJanssen I believe it was bred from van der Veeke x Hove-Uyterhoeve pigeons so not one of the white grizzles.
If these eggs are full then YBs might end up in the test loft

i bought three pairs lost all 12 younsters i breed from them so all three pairs went in the black bag waisted me money there but there must be some good ones out there some where

barnie wrote:

Got a Gson of Kleine Jos real handful and only 8 months old. Although Kleine Jos was a big winner for RJanssen I believe it was bred from van der Veeke x Hove-Uyterhoeve pigeons so not one of the white grizzles.
If these eggs are full then YBs might end up in the test loft

klien jos was bred by jos huygens where a lot of rollands comes from and jos,s agent is pieter Kosse

klien jos was bred by jos huygens where a lot of rollands comes from and jos,s agent is pieter Kosse [/quote]

Thats correct, Red Bingo or Rode Bingo was the number one racer in the loft for 4 years in a row I think, his Parents were Oude Gryzen and Diamond White (the mother of the loft) Red bingo was knocking on in years for a racer when Klien Jos arrived and If I remember right that season he finished 2nd Acebird to Kliene Jos.

Rode Bingo was retired to stock where like his parents began to breed many winners and Top Birds, around 7 or more years ago I was speaking on the phone to a Man called Andre Van Perre (Rolands friend and translator) and I asked him about the birds and what line was best.
He told me that most of the top birds in the loft came from the Red Bingo line and that I would probably be best to try and get a stock pair or so from birds carrying this blood. I did purchase a pair of birds direct from Roland but never got chance to try them properly as I went to live in Canada.

Since then Louella has got all Rolands best birds and I am now in Portugal, I contaced Michael Massarella and He said he had a stock pair that fit my requirements. I purchased a son from Red Bingo mated back to his own Mother Diamond White and a Daughter of White Feather carring the Red Bingo line in the female side of her pedigree.
I have mated them together and bred 5 birds that raced very well last season, this season I have moved loft but I have 6 to try and they are performing fantastic at training, this season I have a better loft position and no dust in it and I am excited at the prospects of racing these birds.

good info kev and all the very best with them

spencerline wrote:

klien jos was bred by jos huygens where a lot of rollands comes from and jos,s agent is pieter Kosse

Thats correct, Red Bingo or Rode Bingo was the number one racer in the loft for 4 years in a row I think, his Parents were Oude Gryzen and Diamond White (the mother of the loft) Red bingo was knocking on in years for a racer when Klien Jos arrived and If I remember right that season he finished 2nd Acebird to Kliene Jos.

Rode Bingo was retired to stock where like his parents began to breed many winners and Top Birds, around 7 or more years ago I was speaking on the phone to a Man called Andre Van Perre (Rolands friend and translator) and I asked him about the birds and what line was best.
He told me that most of the top birds in the loft came from the Red Bingo line and that I would probably be best to try and get a stock pair or so from birds carrying this blood. I did purchase a pair of birds direct from Roland but never got chance to try them properly as I went to live in Canada.

Since then Louella has got all Rolands best birds and I am now in Portugal, I contaced Michael Massarella and He said he had a stock pair that fit my requirements. I purchased a son from Red Bingo mated back to his own Mother Diamond White and a Daughter of White Feather carring the Red Bingo line in the female side of her pedigree.
I have mated them together and bred 5 birds that raced very well last season, this season I have moved loft but I have 6 to try and they are performing fantastic at training, this season I have a better loft position and no dust in it and I am excited at the prospects of racing these birds.
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the best bird to ever leave the loft was a pigeon raced by rolands father and his partner called the white thief he was sold to happyco lofts and renamed the white bandit while racing in the belg the ck won 17x1st many on the trap hence his name the thief as many times he beat birds on trapping the ck formed the basis of happyco lofts breeding many winners sean

[quote="skytx"]For good "SLICK" feathers---give the birds FLAX seed. I give 25 birds a teaspoon full ever day.
TheY will get so Slick it will take Both hands to hold a bird.

Gaz b wrote:

the jury is still out for me, although they are really nice birds. I still have two left out of 6 one has never put a foot wrong.
Will test um this year though.
We have crossed many of um this year just to see how they perform.

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Good feather quality is in the DNA of the bird, as you say Flax seed or Linseed as it is more commonly known is good for feathers but it is not a miracle cure for dry feathers, you also have to be careful how much the birds get as it is fattening and worse still will bung them up. around enough seeds to cover a sixpence per bird every other day is enough.
Feeding the actual seed and not putting oil on food is easier to moniter the birds intake and it also helps the bird digest vitamin B12 the most important vitamin for super health in pigeons.

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the best bird to ever leave the loft was a pigeon raced by rolands father and his partner called the white thief he was sold to happyco lofts and renamed the white bandit while racing in the belg the ck won 17x1st many on the trap hence his name the thief as many times he beat birds on trapping the ck formed the basis of happyco lofts breeding many winners sean[/quote]

That bird White Bandit is long dead through old age but Red Bingos parents carry the same blood.

spencerline wrote:

the best bird to ever leave the loft was a pigeon raced by rolands father and his partner called the white thief he was sold to happyco lofts and renamed the white bandit while racing in the belg the ck won 17x1st many on the trap hence his name the thief as many times he beat birds on trapping the ck formed the basis of happyco lofts breeding many winners sean[/quote]

That bird White Bandit is long dead through old age but Red Bingos parents carry the same blood.[/quote]

the white grizzle lines where raced by sengers and janssen i think the red blood came from jos hugens as rolland did not like reds and in fact had none untill rode bingo but he liked it when it won p s theres also bushy blood in them now as massa gave roland some to try

sean

we have descendants of this birds.
But as Roland Janssen himself says he believes these genes are a dominant factor.
TBH I have not been overly impressed with um. So this year they have all been crossed into mainly flor engels, maybe this will give um a bit of vigour for use of a word. If not they will go in the bin, expensive experiment.

oldstrain wrote:

good info kev and all the very best with them

Thanks Darren, I hope you had a great Christmas and New year, We start racing in early March so in the morning we are off training the Late breds or yearlings as they will be officially known.
I have a racing partner this season and he lives close to the birds so they get fed twice per day and loft fly twice per day when they are not training. Between us we have 82 yearlings 40 are what I bred via pairing by eyesign and off my Roland Js

We took them on to the other side of the Monqhique mountains on Wednesday so tomoz they are going again but I will let them go in groups of 4 or 5 colour coordinated to cut down the chances of hawk attacks and to make sure they are all thinking for themselves, lol.

thanks kev may you have a good 2013 also mate and atb with the racing in a new partnership....hope it works out and keep us informed with your eyesign pairings ..good luck

seanl wrote:

spencerline wrote:

the best bird to ever leave the loft was a pigeon raced by rolands father and his partner called the white thief he was sold to happyco lofts and renamed the white bandit while racing in the belg the ck won 17x1st many on the trap hence his name the thief as many times he beat birds on trapping the ck formed the basis of happyco lofts breeding many winners sean

That bird White Bandit is long dead through old age but Red Bingos parents carry the same blood.[/quote]

the white grizzle lines where raced by sengers and janssen i think the red blood came from jos hugens as rolland did not like reds and in fact had none untill rode bingo but he liked it when it won p s theres also bushy blood in them now as massa gave roland some to try

sean[/quote]

My Son of Red bingo is in the avatar he is a red Griz and his hen is a White griz with black spots but they breed all colours, I have nearly all whites , Grizzles, Red Griz, a couple of Reds, A blue bar with one white flight and a mealy.
The Blue bar was leading our acebird until he hit a wire and the mealy was one of the top 3 of my friends raceteam in another club in Lagoa as I bred him 2 to try and they both scored for him, the mealy scored 4 times.

spencerline wrote:

seanl wrote:

spencerline wrote:

the best bird to ever leave the loft was a pigeon raced by rolands father and his partner called the white thief he was sold to happyco lofts and renamed the white bandit while racing in the belg the ck won 17x1st many on the trap hence his name the thief as many times he beat birds on trapping the ck formed the basis of happyco lofts breeding many winners sean

That bird White Bandit is long dead through old age but Red Bingos parents carry the same blood.

the white grizzle lines where raced by sengers and janssen i think the red blood came from jos hugens as rolland did not like reds and in fact had none untill rode bingo but he liked it when it won p s theres also bushy blood in them now as massa gave roland some to try

sean[/quote]

My Son of Red bingo is in the avatar he is a red Griz and his hen is a White griz with black spots but they breed all colours, I have nearly all whites , Grizzles, Red Griz, a couple of Reds, A blue bar with one white flight and a mealy.
The Blue bar was leading our acebird until he hit a wire and the mealy was one of the top 3 of my friends raceteam in another club in Lagoa as I bred him 2 to try and they both scored for him, the mealy scored 4 times.[/quote]

i had a wht ck and a red hen they breda blue pd 2 blk grizzles and a red pd the blpd won the others where crap went in the bag as did the parents following year no good to me

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i had a wht ck and a red hen they breda blue pd 2 blk grizzles and a red pd the blpd won the others where crap went in the bag as did the parents following year no good to me [/quote]

Thats pigeons, you pay your money and you take your chances, there are good and bad birds in every strain or breed and more bad birds than good.

The problem with the RJs is they are so beautiful to look at many people jumped on the bandwagon and just bred for whites they were selling ggg grandsons and daughters of a bird that once upon a time won a race.

There are some cracking RJs around and I am hoping that I have some of them , time will tell as we are racing against up to 10,000 birds each week in the shorter 175 mile races here and in our smaller Fed 3,000 birds so they will be tested well.

well i had the best of them no good for me best of luck with them sean

i had one of my birds go in a loft in the midlands a guy called john bate he said he been winning out of turn with them and from the channel .....i suppose its acase of striking lucky with your stock