todays race melton mowbray

Don Webb wrote:

Agree with you David but do you ever see a top sports person in condition fat or eating everything and anything

I find the best way to feed you birds is by hand or in a troff as soon as two pigeons go to the water fountain then remove the feed as the ones left are getting over fed,your best pigeons never eat a lot of food compared to the pigeons which never win

Now this is a statement i tottaly agree on.

i feed my widownood cocks in there boxes in a pot but i put there corn in by hand so they get used to me

yes , i do the same....have pots in nestbox and feed them in their boxes. some of them are used to my hand and fight with me or at least stand their ground. although some fly out of the box when i put my hand in....

same here david i like the ones that stand there ground and fight these make excellent widowhood cocks dont like the scary ones

Most cute for me is the 10 day old chics with their fearsome attacks and clicking sounds

Thanks Grizzle Cock for your reply glad to see i am doing something right

Hi David

I hate widowhood cocks which will fly out of there box when you place your hand by them for me they have to go if they can not defend there home or trust you them they are no go to me

Hi Ian

always find that if a widowhood cock bird flys from his box then he will up set the rest of the birds

The best team of widowhood cock i ever saw was at mike lennon's loft he would open the door and they would just look at you and if anyone went by them they would just fight there hand this to me is how a widowhood cock should be for me

Grizzle cock wrote:

Most cute for me is the 10 day old chics with their fearsome attacks and clicking sounds

yes its starange niel how at 10-14 days old they guard the nest and attack yuor hand...then when they are older birds they are scared of you....

i agree don, i would think a good widowhood cock would be aggressive over his terratory and guard it against anything....

Some times you can find this with yearligs new section new surrounding that is why some fanciers and only a few or the money fanciers race there young birds and place boxes in the same loft to help them get use to the nest boxes this would mean no moving the birds to race to a different part of the loft

sometimes when i am watching my yearlings i think certain ones would make good widowers by how they want to dominate the loft and certain perches...im looking forward to racing next season to see how my birds do .

If you are going to race widowhood then remove all perches and have two single V perches which you can fit to any part of the section and you use this method when you want to fire them up mid way through the season

Just place one perch on each side of the loft and add one extra pigeon in the loft also the cocks will want to have the new perch but the extra cock will then go to the empty box this will then fire up the cock who is on the perch

That is just something else

never done this before with widowhood cocks raced widowhood for 8 years now sounds good tho ,loads of different ways just finding the right one for your pigeons

Widowhood cock racing seem to be very effective ?

dont you fly widowhood niel if not you should try it

iany wrote:

dont you fly widowhood niel if not you should try it

yes niel, dont you fly it? you should give it a try niel and see the difference......do other fanciers in your club fly w/hood?

Nobody in my club

give it a try should beat them all the time wiyh widowhood

yes niel, race them on widowhood and you will beat them every time....why dont they fly on this system? have they heard of it? you would be the top man if you flew this system.

It is the best system around if you get it right you can have your birds returning very fast and as soon as you have one you have got the lot

hi don, was talking to a local fancier who i competed against in the 80s and he still isnt flying widowhood.....i cant belive that people are still trying to compete with the top men and persist in flying natural. he also doesnt fly ybs on the dark so no wonder he is disheartened......
a few of the fanciers i talk to whom i raced against in the past all complain about the top flyers in our area but what do they expect when they are probably flying the desendants of the pigeons that didnt win for them 20 years ago.....cant understand them.

Hi David

They are what i call stick in the mud and will not change, the only way forward is to try different things which make your pigeons race faster, if you look back the widowhood was raced in the 30/40's in belgium how far am we behind

youre right don, when we raced we were either top winners or around the top each year and we were only experimenting with widowhood as there was only a few doing it....hardly anyone else in the club new anything about it so no wonder we did so well, thing is they are still not doing anything any different now...