sparrow hawk

went to garden tonight to feed and water up as i was coming out there was a hawk on a light chequer ran back to loft to get my gun got within 20ft and it flew off damn it pigeon flew off aswell lived to kill another day

i heard about that thing off frankie

ian wrote:

went to garden tonight to feed and water up as i was coming out there was a hawk on a light chequer ran back to loft to get my gun got within 20ft and it flew off damn it pigeon flew off aswell lived to kill another day

will have to get 1 of them would like to see 1 in agony like they put birds through

If you find one like that again and its killed the bird, leave it there as it will come back and you might get the chance to shoot it.

once got told to put a bird in a glass tank (fishtank) on top of loft roof......when the hawk sees it , it will dive to kill it and break its neck on the glass......dont know how true this is and it would probably kill the pigeon with shock but its a thought......

yes it does work david

I once saw a programme in america where they were catching eagles, they had rabbits and tied them in a field then when the eagle pounced on it they would shoot a net over it. They kept killing the rabbits so they made a leather jacket and put it on them so the eagle couldnt kil them. I think the rabbit would rather be dead than have this happen over and over..terrifing..

Good thing David with pigeon in a glass tank and the hawk breaks it's neck trying to get the pigeon

Ian you have to be careful saying you were going to shoot the hawk as they are a protected bird of prey

Don Webb wrote:

Ian you have to be careful saying you were going to shoot the hawk as they are a protected bird of prey

protected birds or not im protecting my birds at any cost, just got what i wanted mate has it x army so knows more, i dont like smell of powered gas

I understand were you are coming from Steve but if someone see the comment and takes offence then who knows???????????????

Don Webb wrote:

I understand were you are coming from Steve but if someone see the comment and takes offence then who knows???????????????

i know what you mean Don seen it on another forum, nothing is at my home or loft covered mate,
bop will be singing an old song called, bang bang he shot me down bang bang

o.k

Well I can tell you for sure, when my birds exercise there is a loaded gun mostly in my hand, without it I couldnt race pigeons.

obviously the rspb are very selective about which birds they choose to protect, what makes them be able to protect bops and pigeon fanciers not be able to protect their birds......? as most of you have said, our rights are to protect what is ours..........

[quote="rudderfett"] Well I can tell you for sure, when my birds exercise there is a loaded gun mostly in my hand, without it I couldnt race pigeons.[/quote
yes same here

im sure somewhere in the law it states that you are allowed to protect your livestock surely our pigeons would come under this law as it is our livestock isnt it ??

david you wouldnt believe how selective they are, I remember an article a few years ago where the rspb commitee decided it was time to start killing off the ruddy duck, ( NOT BECAUSE WE SHARE A NAME, THAT I care) but it was mating with the white headed duck and causing a cross which they didnt like, although thats nature and Im sure its happened millions of times before man was around. They said if it mated with the white headed duck so much and it wasnt culled then the white headed duck would become extinct..boo hoo...how selective is that?

lucky for me Ian I live on a farm and my nabour is my sister in law, so I am a bit luckier than most. I have a gun for vermin and shoot something most weeks, crows and magpies,

Rene A wrote:

im sure somewhere in the law it states that you are allowed to protect your livestock surely our pigeons would come under this law as it is our livestock isnt it ??

well when takng our young birds training last year we were stopped by police and was told our insurance did not cover us to carry livestock what a laugh we didnt get done but the police stated they were livestock and yes there is a law that states we can protect our livestock

the BIG question is would it stand up in court if they tried to prossicute some 1 for protecting his or her stock

Rene A wrote:

the BIG question is would it stand up in court if they tried to prossicute some 1 for protecting his or her stock

????? proberly not

does anyone knoe if a fancier has ever been took to court over killing/protecting their pigeons.....?

aprilla wrote:

Rene A wrote:

im sure somewhere in the law it states that you are allowed to protect your livestock surely our pigeons would come under this law as it is our livestock isnt it ??

well when takng our young birds training last year we were stopped by police and was told our insurance did not cover us to carry livestock what a laugh we didnt get done but the police stated they were livestock and yes there is a law that states we can protect our livestock

a farmer can shoot your dog if it is worrying his sheep, why cant pigeon fanciers shoot/kill to protect their birds........?

DAVID wrote:

aprilla wrote:

Rene A wrote:

im sure somewhere in the law it states that you are allowed to protect your livestock surely our pigeons would come under this law as it is our livestock isnt it ??

well when takng our young birds training last year we were stopped by police and was told our insurance did not cover us to carry livestock what a laugh we didnt get done but the police stated they were livestock and yes there is a law that states we can protect our livestock

a farmer can shoot your dog if it is worrying his sheep, why cant pigeon fanciers shoot/kill to protect their birds........?

because the rspb say it wrong