Sprouted barley

Ok, I can not find any information on barley that has been sprouted before giving to pigeons as feed. The only info I can find is that barley when sprouted to the stage below has 20 percent protein, and folic acid ect. That form of nutrition is not availble when the barley is in dry stage(unsprouted). Excellent malting barley is the cheapest feed we can get here, and when sprouted! It comes out to roughly 3$USD per fifty pound weight.

I dried out the roots slightly and soaked the barley back into some red cell enriched water for a couple hours and fed to pigeons. They loved it! No loose droppings like I was expecting.

I know the knowledge is out there, just wondering why I can not find any information of others sprouting barley for pigeons? If we give them vegetables and whatnot, why not something so cheap and healthy?

If I'm making a novice mistake please chime in and let the schooling begin....

I know it is new years in some places. Knackered is probably wrestling a massive crocodile just to bring in the new years properly

Romedius im a big believer in Barley After racing as finished mine are fed on 100% barley it helps clean the system out the pigeons do not start piling on weight the dropping are good which tells me their internal systems are good to me barley is avery under estermated corn
Ken

friendsloft wrote:

Romedius im a big believer in Barley After racing as finished mine are fed on 100% barley it helps clean the system out the pigeons do not start piling on weight the dropping are good which tells me their internal systems are good to me barley is avery under estermated  corn
Ken

Thanks Ken. My birds are on 100% barley now. If the temperatures drop down below -10 F I splash in a little whole corn. Sprouts are cheap for me here. Produce is pricey this time of year. Just wondering if anyone else sprouts for the ease, and nutrient change when sprouted to this stage.

Romedius hand on heart never fed them when Barley as sprouted to that stage , but open to ideas and other members thoughts on this
Ken

as far as I am aware the tails are too long on that barley shown it has to be just poking through to be at the ideal stage ...I use an element of barley but never fed it alone or when its sprouting but that's just my preference as many do ...when the barley is at this stage theirs more sugar in the barley that's why its used for brewing in this manner I may not be totally correct but that's the general gist of it atb

oldstrain wrote:

as far as I am aware the tails are too long on that barley shown it has to be just poking through to be at the ideal stage ...I use an element of barley but never fed it alone or when its sprouting  but that's just my preference as many do ...when the barley is at this stage theirs more sugar in the barley that's why its used for brewing in this manner I may not be totally correct but that's the general gist of it atb

Interesting. They do stuff themselves until a strand or two hang out like cigarettes. But after they drink everything seems fine. Only thing I notice is the pigeons don't eat much grit after feeding them sprouts for a few days, I guess they don't need it to grind their food as much

Iv had malt which is the correct name that brewers use...its moistened in the malt house and turned.
cant remember exactly what else but it just looks like dark barley but nutty taste and smell
I new a security gaude who worked for federation breweries.(newcastle upon tyne)
I got a few bags from him in about 1990/91 good stuff...won sprint opens using it as a depuritive
but I think he retired or got the sack...
Dave Allen wrote an article on it years ago when him and Bert Hession had the van reets..

[quote="fieldwalker"]Iv had malt which is the correct name that brewers use...its moistened in the malt house and turned.
cant remember exactly what else but it just looks like dark barley but nutty taste and smell
I new a security gaude who worked for federation breweries.(newcastle upon tyne)
I got a few bags from him in about 1990/91 good stuff...won sprint opens using it as a depuritive
but I think he retired or got the sack...
Dave Allen wrote an article on it years ago when him and Bert Hession had the van reets..[/quote

Interesting story. I use to drink my share of new Castle. The barley I buy is called wax v barley. It doesn't have that papery chaff on it. I just sprout a cupful a week. It turns isn't a quart or better.
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Romedius wrote:

Ok, I can not find any information on barley that has been sprouted before giving to pigeons as feed.  The only info I can find is that barley when sprouted to the stage below has 20 percent protein, and folic acid ect.  That form of nutrition is not availble when the barley is in dry stage(unsprouted).  Excellent malting barley is the cheapest feed we can get here, and when sprouted!  It comes out to roughly 3$USD per fifty pound weight.  

I dried out  the roots slightly and soaked the barley back into some red cell enriched water for a couple hours and fed to pigeons.  They loved it!  No loose droppings  like I was expecting.  

I know the knowledge is out there, just wondering why I can not find any information of others sprouting barley for pigeons?   If we give them vegetables and whatnot, why not something so cheap and healthy?

If I'm making a novice mistake please chime in and let the schooling begin....

Not some thing  I have actually seen either Rom I would suggest thou     . Suck up to Hal     get him to wave his magic wand etc as I know on the Allanta or what I call T. Mak's forum there are topics of a similar nature, thou not barley for what I remember. At the end of the day, your pigeons will tell you if what you are doing is good or bad as such with your barley thing. Now the crocodile bit no challenge in fighting one to bring the new year in   I always take on 2 big ones
(6 metres at least) more fun & in some ways a wee bit like our forum here .
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Romedius wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

as far as I am aware the tails are too long on that barley shown it has to be just poking through to be at the ideal stage ...I use an element of barley but never fed it alone or when its sprouting  but that's just my preference as many do ...when the barley is at this stage theirs more sugar in the barley that's why its used for brewing in this manner I may not be totally correct but that's the general gist of it atb

Interesting.  They do stuff themselves until a strand or two hang out like cigarettes.  But after they drink everything seems fine.  Only thing I notice is the pigeons don't eat much grit after feeding them sprouts for a few days,  I guess they don't need it to grind their food as much

Many type grits just don't break down in 24 hours Rom, so I wouldn't worry etc. Breeding time normally is when they hog out so it pays to have a truck load ready as such . I see happy hour  has just arrived in Montana etc I believe. May just have to give the chewing tobacco away & smoke pot now as they say .  

Knackered wrote:

Romedius wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

as far as I am aware the tails are too long on that barley shown it has to be just poking through to be at the ideal stage ...I use an element of barley but never fed it alone or when its sprouting  but that's just my preference as many do ...when the barley is at this stage theirs more sugar in the barley that's why its used for brewing in this manner I may not be totally correct but that's the general gist of it atb

Interesting.  They do stuff themselves until a strand or two hang out like cigarettes.  But after they drink everything seems fine.  Only thing I notice is the pigeons don't eat much grit after feeding them sprouts for a few days,  I guess they don't need it to grind their food as much

Many type grits just don't break down in 24 hours Rom, so I wouldn't worry etc. Breeding time normally is when they hog out so it pays to have a truck load ready as such . I see happy hour  has just arrived in Montana etc I believe. May just have to give the chewing tobacco away & smoke pot now as they say .  

Doctor told me I'd be better to smoke pot, than use chewing tabacco. True story. As far as bringing in the new year? Having a cup of tea, and hitting the rack.

Yeah I saw the new year in with coke...
Out the bottle happy new year Rom

Romedius wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Romedius wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

as far as I am aware the tails are too long on that barley shown it has to be just poking through to be at the ideal stage ...I use an element of barley but never fed it alone or when its sprouting  but that's just my preference as many do ...when the barley is at this stage theirs more sugar in the barley that's why its used for brewing in this manner I may not be totally correct but that's the general gist of it atb

Interesting.  They do stuff themselves until a strand or two hang out like cigarettes.  But after they drink everything seems fine.  Only thing I notice is the pigeons don't eat much grit after feeding them sprouts for a few days,  I guess they don't need it to grind their food as much

Many type grits just don't break down in 24 hours Rom, so I wouldn't worry etc. Breeding time normally is when they hog out so it pays to have a truck load ready as such . I see happy hour  has just arrived in Montana etc I believe. May just have to give the chewing tobacco away & smoke pot now as they say .  

Doctor told me I'd be better to smoke pot, than use chewing tabacco.  True story.  As far as bringing in the new year?  Having a cup of tea, and hitting the rack.  

Another druggie         here on the forum etc just like me it appears Rom I go through a bucket of tea a day here & you would be some what surprised how much finishes up in the birds drinkers, as scraps .
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fieldwalker wrote:

Yeah I saw the new year in with coke...
Out the bottle happy new year Rom

Coke, tea a real bunch of piss pots etc it appears here FW Rom, talks about that bunch of crooks/outlaws in his blood line. Got nothing on the wild bunch types here I would suggest .
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""as I know on the Allanta or what I call T. Mak's forum there are topics of a similar nature, ""
Only Aussie onthat site I can see is Gordon Wiess. Pioneer Lofts.

From the Alberta Classic site years ago.
"Sprouts- an example , malted barley, when they make malted barley for feed they spread malt barley seed out in large screen trays. Then dampen the seed to induce sprouting. As the stem of the sprout appears, they gage the optimun time during this process that the starches stored in the seed are converted into sugars and minerals. At this time they nock off the sprout which halts the process and locks these valuable food sources in the remaining seed.
I'm sure that is what is so vitamin rich and nutritious for us and our birds. The sprouts contain within that time frame these stored components. That is why the timing is important!! because this is the highest concentration level during sprouting. Too early and the essentials we are looking for are not yet at the highest level and too late they are diverted into other processes for developing the plant.

AGAIN, this brings us back to working WITH the scheme of NATURE . Natural immunity and health, using what the Creator has provided all of us with."

Hope I am not accused of mentioning another site? Have been in that one many years. Nowhere near as lively as it used to be. Facebook came along and every guy with pigeons wanted his own page. Joined many then cut most out. Overwhelmed by the pigeon guys advertising. For sprouted barley and some other stuff went in and searched the archives. Thought some posts would be there. Good source of info. Apparently Knackered looks in. Did not realise that but Knackered is a devious old fart anyway! LOL!

halcanada wrote:

""as I know on the Allanta or what I call T. Mak's forum there are topics of a similar nature, ""
Only Aussie onthat site I can see is Gordon Wiess. Pioneer Lofts.

Was there long, long before PL Hal Still remember a xmas photo Tom sent me at the time. House covered in 10ft of snow pigeon loft no where to be seen as such . Decided then, being an old type surfie/sun type   was a much better way to lead the good life & they all could stick that snow scenario right up you know where .  

halcanada wrote:

Hope I am not accused of mentioning another site? Have been in that one many years. Nowhere near as lively as it used to be. Facebook came along and every guy with pigeons wanted his own page. Joined many then cut most out. Overwhelmed by the pigeon guys advertising. For sprouted barley and some other stuff went in and searched the archives. Thought some posts would be there. Good source of info. Apparently Knackered looks in. Did not realise that but Knackered is a devious old fart anyway! LOL!

Talk about me being of devious nature Hal & an old fart etc you taught me tricks of the trade so to speak  one could say .
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I see that I sprouted the barley a little too long. Maybe not necessary at all. I thought I found a super cheap vegetable! It was fun to learn about though.