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PostSubject: Young birds dying.   Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:33 am

3 a few days apart. First one was week and half getting back from first race. Figured stress, no visible marks or a weak pigeon. Two days later another one. Not flown. He was to go last weekend but I cancelled out. Fed top speeds were around a 1000 mpm. Glad I called it right! Another one today. All young birds. No marks or signs of injury. Early bred, then mid time bred then last one raised. I never get pigeons die like this!!! Never treat them. Will not start now.
I figured out the answer I beleive. To the deaths. Any one like to guess?
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:02 am

sorry to hear birds are dying hal, is it something the have picked up ...?
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:30 am

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3 a few days apart. First one was week and half getting back from first race. Figured stress, no visible marks or a weak pigeon. Two days later another one. Not flown. He was to go last weekend but I cancelled out. Fed top speeds were around a 1000 mpm. Glad I called it right! Another one today. All young birds. No marks or signs of injury. Early bred, then mid time bred then last one raised. I never get pigeons die like this!!! Never treat them. Will not start now.
I figured out the answer I beleive. To the deaths. Any one like to guess?
Wouldn't even attempt to offer you advise Hal. But  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes  3 dead in a few days means you have/appear to have a major issue there I suggest. Hate to say it Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes but maybe it's just time to call in a Vet with the knowledge factor, maybe Smile Smile or even maybe put them on Virkon S as a safe guard there till some help can arrive etc. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Wed Aug 29, 2018 1:59 pm

As mentioned never get a sick one. Only deaths here are by predators or me.
Perplexed me! Then checked. First one was out of one of my better racing cocks, now in stock loft. Mated to a good previously raced hen. Bird hatched in Jan. 2nd death hatched in March. Third the last bird of the year banded. SAME PARENTS!!!
So that pair produces genetically unsound young. Will remedy that. I am 99% sure that is the cause. Strange!!
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Wed Aug 29, 2018 2:26 pm

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As mentioned never get a sick one. Only deaths here are by predators or me.
Perplexed me! Then checked. First one was out of one of my better racing cocks, now  in stock loft. Mated to a good previously raced hen. Bird hatched in Jan. 2nd death hatched in March. Third the last bird of the year banded. SAME PARENTS!!!
So that pair produces genetically unsound young. Will remedy that. I am 99% sure that is the cause. Strange!!


might be like mine I found dead in the street hal, brother and sister pairing...........something in the genes maybe Suspect Suspect Suspect study
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:53 pm

Not the cause Hal … just the sauce.

I think I would give them all a full strength Canker cure with a full strength Baytril mixed together, for 5 consecutive days...
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:48 am

Just checked email. This posted few days ago.
Steve and Linda Walsh <walshsl@amtelecom.net>
Fri 08-24, 5:05 PM
You;Viorel Koczi (vckoczi@gmail.com);
Further to Roland's email below guys, I have just struck a deal, minutes ago, that the baskets and trailer will be power washed/sanitized weekly.......Steve
From: rol-ali@silomail.com
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 11:16 AM
To: walshsl@amtelecom.net
Subject: Fw: Sick Birds



Hi Guys! It was brought to my attention this morning that there is quite a few members who are experiencing sick birds. To try to avoid any further spreading and trying to keep it to a minimum, the trailer has been washed. If you notice any sign of sick birds in your loft please avoid shipping. Thank you........... Your transportation chairman.........................Roland Paret.
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:08 am

So I may be wrong!!! Heaven forbid!!
Was going to quit for the year. Hope springs eternal! Plan of action. Tomorrow, Thursday will train all young 20 miles. Weather is not looking good but will do it. Return at reasonable speed will fly them this week end. Not a good looking week end for racing but will ship. 205 miles for first timers. All races after this weekend short is 250 miles, long 300. Hate to start them at 250.
As for canker suggestion NO. Never treated for years. No point in doing it now.
Worked Dairy in the UK. Other livestock. Same over here. Managed herds of thousands of hogs. Farrow to finish. Vaccines, vets, all anti-biotics, wormers etc,. Feed on timers, medicated water etc,. But in the hog industry prop up the weak. They can be sold! Has to be that way. Cannot operate on a loss.
Pigeons, mine any way, are freebies for other people. So can do whatever I want.
Health wise keep the best. They are probably the better fliers/producers anyway. JMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:58 am

I don't think it a problem treating for a disease its the repeat offenders that need to be dealt with but we all have our own ways of dealing with things at least it looks likely the problem was on the transporter good luck
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PostSubject: Re: Young birds dying.   Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:14 pm

Did not train nor will I ship. However, this morning they are up for two hours again. The ones not nesting. Will ship next week. 250 miler.
I did add 1 gram Tetracycline to the water.
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