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PostSubject: Crunch time here.   Sun Sep 09, 2018 11:17 pm

No more young died. Not out because of high winds. But usually fly good. 1 yearling died few days ago. 1 stock bird today. Previous racer. They had Tetracycline in the water for 3 days. Apparently did not do much. So will not medicate again. Maybe not fly any YB races either. Will let it run its course. AC vinegar every other day. Strong will survive.
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:50 am

halcanada wrote:
No more young died. Not out because of high winds. But usually fly good. 1 yearling died few days ago. 1 stock bird today. Previous racer. They had Tetracycline in the water for 3 days. Apparently did not do much. So will not medicate again. Maybe not fly any YB races either. Will let it run its course. AC vinegar every other day. Strong will survive.
Certainly appear to have an issue their Hal, unfortunately. Know of Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes a world renowned Vet etc Wink Wink happy to advise I suggest bounce bounce & also lightning the load with what you carry in your pocket there  Wink  Wink if interested Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Mon Sep 10, 2018 8:14 am

sorry to hear yer having an issue their hal ,was 3 days enough
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:40 am

3 to 5 days on directions. Heavier dose may have worked better. All look good today. Have the stuff here but reluctant to use it again. So I lose some. So be it. Will let it run its course. Right or wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Tue Sep 11, 2018 1:58 pm

Hal,
Have you introduced any new pigeons in recently?.

Although one can establish a good immune system over time it may not be relevant to a completely new problem brought in.

There is no doubt problems will continue to arrise due to the system adopted by many fanciers and the fact that illnesses and bugs fight back.

For many years I had no problems at all but would not have been suprized to have encountered some had I continued.

I put great faith in lime to prevent rather than cure and built the immune system by the fittest survive, inicially you will lose some but it is worth it in the long run.

Like you I have been around a bit, and watching Jane Mc Donalds travels last night it brought back all the countries I have been to and in every one seen an abundance of our feathered friends.

In Cambodia there were hundreds of pigeons of all colours and I wonder if they actually race them.


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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:31 pm

Misty. No new pigeons brough in. However, have had 6 or 7 strays. 3 from well known fliers. Name on band.  All looking good now and flying well. May race this week end but hurricane is going to hit the US east coast Thursday. So weather may be dicey. Wed. today and having problems with Sattelite for computer and also cell phone. Intermitent signals. If the pigeons use the same or similar waves then hard on most.
https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/atlantic-hurricane-season-florence-isaac-helene-flooding-rain/111663/
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:49 am

Racing finished this year for me. Culling will not be a problem. Only about 16 to get rid of. Walked outside today and young birds in, older birds out. New loft for most, reluctant to trap. Speed traps. Held out my hand with peanuts and the best yearlings from this year were down to eat. From my hand. Outside. Some food was in the loft. They had left it. So I have to assume the four or five that were so smart to get the food and had raced very well were the superior birds. Smartest. So, keep good performing birds and rid of the rest. No second chances for a lot of them. Have the space but not the inclination to keep them anymore.
12 or so widowhood cocks for next year. YB' maybe 25.
Still sick birds being reported in the Fed by members.
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:19 pm

My resident population. About 24 of them in the barns.

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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:27 pm

are the pigens yours hal, or ferals.........or birds you lost to the wild as young birds ?
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:28 pm

They live in the rafters of the sheds. Ferals. Been here since I arrived 15 years or so ago. Occasionally a young one will enter the loft but never had sickness. They look good being out side 12 months of the year.
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:11 pm

Surely it should show us that we are doing things wrong.

Ferals feeding on everything natural, unless of course they do pinch a bit of seed etc from the feeders.

No artificial accommodation, no medication, unless they know something we do not, and seemingly have a decent moult etc; year on year.

I always visited Peasholme Park along with the Town gardens to see the ferals, only ever noticed the odd realy ill pigeon.

THe ones in Peasholme Park must have flown over a hundred miles a day they were airborne more than grounded.

I wrote an article in the BHW regarding this.

Several old dears used to feed them all kinds of scraps but it never appeared to do them any harm as they were always in fine feather etc;

There were racers amongst them and they were always in good nick.

The powrs that be decided that the pigeons had to go because a interfereing woman on holiday said they were making a mess on the band stand, she could not tell a pigeon from a sea gull, the latter the real culprits.

One day they all vanished so the old dears who used to feed them lost their pleasure because of bitch from away who only visited once in a blue moon.

Funny old world.

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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:01 am

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Surely it should show us that we are doing things wrong.

Ferals feeding on everything natural, unless of course they do pinch a bit of seed etc from the feeders.

No artificial accommodation, no medication, unless they know something we do not, and seemingly have a decent moult etc; year on year.

I always visited Peasholme Park along with the Town gardens to see the ferals, only ever noticed the odd realy ill pigeon.

THe ones in Peasholme Park must have flown over a hundred miles a day they were airborne more than grounded.

I wrote an article in the BHW regarding this.

Several old dears used to feed them all kinds of scraps but it never appeared to do them any harm as they were always in fine feather etc;

There were racers amongst them and they were always in good nick.

The powrs that be decided that the pigeons had to go because a interfereing woman on holiday said they were making a mess on the band stand, she could not tell a pigeon from a sea gull, the latter the real culprits.

One day they all vanished so the old dears who used to feed them lost their pleasure because  of bitch from away who only visited once in a blue moon.

Funny old world.

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Armageddom  Rolling Eyes  Rolling Eyes was going to happen here Misty Smile Smile so the experts said, when the PMV & Rota virus hit town etc. Strange thing is Wink Wink the place is still being over run with scrubber types as such. Experts bounce bounce  Smile  Smile could just name one lol! lol! lol! that's still looking for over half of his pigeons from our race yesterday as such Smile Smile. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Crunch time here.   Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:50 pm

Those looking for Armageddon are usually looking in the wrong place.







Knackered, Those foreseeing Armageddon are usually looking in the wrong place and them that do are often hypocrits

We have an idiot in charge of the Church of England telling everyone what they should be doing to helo the less fortunate but he is sitting on a vast fortune much of it invested in dubious imvestments.

Not to mention they sanction many things condemed in the church they are supposed to represent.

No wonder it is becomming increasingly easy to radicalise the youth of today.

Back to our sport.

Something has gone sadly wrong this year and may be this will be the future.

Many fanciers play great attention and affection to their pigeons but you can be too kind in a detrimental manner along with the win at any cost brigade, with the selling and exchanging of pigeons that have been subjected to vastly diffferent systems you wiill eventually get all the negative aspects together for it is usually those that survive.

I feel it would take many uears and many losses to get the pigeons back to the health of 70 odd years ago.



The vast majority of losses are because of the poor quality of those bred.




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