Police Allowing Illegas into UK

If there is a clear speed limit then those who exceed it deserve all they get.


Does not matter how they are found out.


Just abide by the law, if you think the law is wrong then attempt to change it.



Have no sympathy for the idiots who race around like mad folk.


Motorists are taken for a ride with parking and taxes etc; and are a cash cow for the government who spend all the revinue on anything but for the benifit of the motorist, the roads are in a diabolical state and cause numerois accidents and damage to vehicles, but hey, another means of income, all the VAT on repairs etc;


Would like to see all motorists put their vehicles away for six months, the country would be broke.


Regards.

I think the main reason speed cameras are installed is for revenue collection, I say this because they are not positioned at accident black spots in most cases, but in places they can gain the most money from.

I don't actually think they are there to save lives, just as a means of collecting money off the motorist, yes we do need to keep a safe speed limit, but to the councils its just a money making scam.

thing is, where is all this money going to...? to fix roads ? I doubt it, our taxes and fuel taxes pay for this, so where are all these speed fines and bus lane fines going......?

same with the dvla, they charge us road tax, so we can drive on the PUBLIC HIGHWAY , but none of this money is spent on road repairs, the dvla do not own the roads, and neither do the council, so why are we paying fines to them...?

its the same when a motorist is pulled over by plod, all they are doing is looking to fine you, and collect more revenue , as the police are registered as a profit making company, there to make money...

David, take all your points, it is a frustrating business being a motorist, but if you have a speed limit and keep to it then as a responsible motorist you will have no problem.


Break the speed limit and choose how you look at it you have broken the law.


Many accidents are caused by idiots speeding.


It matters not where the speed cameras are positioned, if you do not want a fine, do not break the law.


Regards.

would you believe misty, I have been stopped by police twice for going too slow...........their reasoning was that they suspected I may have been drinking.

i have never seen a speed camera outside a school, or any place there is a safety issue with pedestrians , they are usually in such a place as to generate money.......

It is for Monetary gain, pure and simple.

Soon proved that when the Chamelon wanted all the money/ Police an councils just pulled out and stopped. taking care to management. Are we to say that the purpose of saving JUST one life was no more of an interest when the stopped coming in! Did the Tory party just say 'Stuff it, get maimed or injured or killed? We no longer care? Well…. it seems all the huboo went out with the when the money wasn't coming in.


Now one has to loo on the internet or local papers to see if any are switched on! they nhave to do that as a detterent of people being killed.

MISTY wrote:

David, take all your points, it is a frustrating business being a motorist, but if you have a speed limit and keep to it then as a responsible motorist you will have no problem.


Break the speed limit and choose how you look at it you have broken the law.


Many accidents are caused by idiots speeding.


It matters not where the speed cameras are positioned, if you do not want a fine, do not break the law.


Regards.

Agree to agree to a point Misty But down here the push bike brigade etc now sadly expect the road speeds for cars to be set at a speed where by they can ride faster than the cars in many places on our roads. Have a well known main road down here "called Beach road" bike junkies just love it, unfortunately many of them don't believe they have to stop at the red lights there for some strange reason over the years like normal car drivers do & it's created a real agro type situation there for all concerned on average when out for a daily drive/ride as such.

Come on chaps, all every motorist has to do is stay within the speed limits and the income will dry up for the government and they will be wasting all the money on cameras and cops sitting in hiding places ready for a good chase etc;

I have also been stopped for apparently going slow by a "LADY" copper, she just wondered why, I told her to ----- off and find some crooks and if she ever stopped me again for no reasonable reason I would sue her.


Another time I was flashed to stop on a hill approaching Olivers Mount, which would have been dangerous, so I carried on and stopped at the top, there was two coppers in the police car one officious idiot started gobbing off as to why I had not stopped immediately, I pointed out that it would have been dangerous, I also asked why he had flashed me in thefirst place, he had no readonable exuse.


So I drove straight to the police station and demanded to see the officer in charge and made a complaint, leaving all my details, he said did I want to make an official complaint or let him deal with it, I said he could do so.

Later that night I received a phone call from the police person who nstopped me and he apologised, which I accepted.


I think if the police concentrated on the real crimes the country would no be in it's present state.



Regards.

unfortunately misty, in a perfect world that would be right, deprive them of their income........I don't know what your history with police is, but if you havnt had many dealings with them you wont know how manipulative they are, I would advise anyone who is being questioned by police to say NOTHING, you have the right to remain SILENT , use that right !!!!

if pulled over by police they can, under 163 of the road traffic act ask your name, address and date of birth, you are legally obliged to give them it, but you are not legally obliged to answer any questions.

the police will always fish for information from you, and most people will talk them selves into being charged with some trumped up charge.....anything to generate revenue.

anyone questioned by police either by the roadside, or in custody always remember the caution you are given " anything you say, CAN, AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN A COURT OF LAW"

they are actually telling you ANY information you give them will be used to convict you, NOT TO DEFEND YOU !!!!

Just to add to all our problems we have devout anti British woman who glorifies killing young people at a concert, who has been involved with a Isis fighter for four years and who has just given birth to his child who wants to come back HOME to have the NHS look after her and the child.


No doubt wants the best house, top benefits whilst colluding how to do more damage to innocent people.


Regards.

You are right, David, my involvement with the police has been minimal, but on the odd occasion have found some helpful.


As with all walks of life, some good, some bad, some indifferent.


Regards.

I have come across the odd decent one misty, but unfortunately they soon get corrupted, they are in actual fact a gang. with gang members.......

incidently the police have NO duty of care to members of the public, they are not legally obliged to protect, or save them from harm.

they swear an oath to the crown, not to joe public.......

After careful consideration of all the facts I feel we could do with three successful Guy Faulks, if not by gun powder then by public outrage.


Both houses of parliament and the police HQ.


Have a fresh start, David. Maybe.


Regards.

'... Come on chaps, all every motorist has to do is stay within the speed limits and the income will dry up for the government and they will be wasting all the money on cameras and cops sitting in hiding places ready for a good chase etc;...'
Will never happen, but then the government knows that. Councils have now jumped on the band wagon and switch on every so often. 'Part Time'? Does that mean that prevent lives is aonly a 'Part time' thing and not really of an importance?

Then the motorists in respect of speeding have nothing to grumble about, speed and you break the law and suffer the consequences, nothing could be more simple nor clearer.

My concern is the others ways in which the motorists are TAKEN FOR A RIDE.



Regards.

in leeds they have spent millions on cycle lanes, I rarely see a bicycle on them.............

Same here, David, seen cycles on the pavement even when they could have been on a cycle lane,
the bus lanes have become a money making machine as has parking tickets etc;

The speed bumps have done nothing but increase car repairs and accidents.


The sooer we go back to horse and carts the better.


Regards.

In Leeds I hated working in centre. No parking places near venues etc. We had to set up Casino tables etc. and warden and police on backs. Many the time I had to move. Drive around and come back till there was a spot somewhere near.

I havnt een into leeds centre for years daz, horrible place to drive if you don't know the bus lanes, signs and flow of traffic.......its all changed since I was a lad

Last time in Leeds visiting Wimpy HQ, of the time, plenty of parking, Gelderd Road, in the 1950s
would not want to go back now.


Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Just to add to all our problems we have devout anti British woman who glorifies killing young people at a concert, who has been involved with a Isis fighter for four years and who has just given birth to his child who wants to come back HOME to have the NHS look after her and the child.


No doubt wants the best house, top benefits whilst colluding how to do more damage to innocent people.


Regards.

Saw that down here Misty etc. Unreal that she would expect to come back home & just let sleeping dogs lie type of thing. End of the day though I suspect she will still have certain do gooder types saying she was some what confused about what was actually going on with Isis I suspect & all should be fore given as such.

You know, regards immigrants  coming in... It is the stowaways  that irk most. The supposedly hidden in lorries, boats coming over... all sent by France, that get up peoples noses.
those legitimates that have applied and been accepted to serve at hospitals, consultants, dentists and other legal trades etc. we turn a blind eye too. Of course we do, we need them. they have papers and National I.D's etc.

Now does one really think that they can do that! They disappear into the country. They don't have I'D's, but use fraud ones, OR borrowed ones often.
These are the ones on slave labour wages etc. MAKING the rich wealthy and earning vast sums tax free. But then the government know this. They allow it. The old boys act eh!