empty vs full stomach

Hi,
I think that before liberation , birds may have water available to drink. But for food, it should serve few hours before liberation time. Because it can put additional load and birds might not feel comfortable while in flight.
But one of my friend said that they should serve food as much as possible and till the time of liberation.it was surprise for me. But he is in australia/brisbine and he said theeir club do so.

What are your thoughts on on birds liberation and food ?

Thanks

Wild birds often have to fly many miles for food and then fly back, (in the winter) ,many more miles than in summer when breeding.

So nature suggests that a belly full may not be detrimental to a birds ability to fly, however, the wild birds are not racing pigeons.

Many fanciers fly to the tin, making food the main incentive to race back ( hate the idea myself, love of home best) so if the birds are fed and not hungry that incentive will be lost.

It is a good subject to consider with all the losses presently encountered.

For myself I always fed well and as usual prior to a race.

May well be helpful to consider what goes off in the transporter.

What matters most is not the condition the pigeon is in when going on transporter but when it leaves it.


Regards.

Correct , so the point is, you feed while you leave home and until liberation , they will have empty stomach again. as per understanding I have, pigeon took 10-12 hour to empty crop. So I think wise is to plan as per digestion time or near. so feed before race but prior 8-10 hour of liberation

MISTY wrote:

Wild birds often have to fly many miles for food and then fly back, (in the winter) ,many more miles than in summer when breeding.

So nature suggests that a belly full may not be detrimental to a birds ability to fly, however, the wild birds are not racing pigeons.

Many fanciers fly to the tin, making food the main incentive to race back ( hate the idea myself, love of home best) so if the birds are fed and not hungry that incentive will be lost.

It is a good subject to consider with all the losses presently encountered.

For myself I always fed well and as usual prior to a race.

May well be helpful to consider what goes off in the transporter.

What matters most is not the condition the pigeon is in when going on transporter but when it leaves it.


Regards.    

I personally would not feed to close to a liberation but would feed well leading up to day of basketing and also feed in the morning day of basketing also a handful of small seed for ybs mid afternoon day of basketing but only a small pinch per bird to get them to drink again before basketing ,the food/energy should be put into the bird in the lead up to the race. basket day should be a light feed but they do get an ounce each if they want it in the morning of a diet mix ...seems to work well here

tanveerhbaig wrote:

Hi,
I think that before liberation , birds may have water available to drink. But for food, it should serve few hours before liberation time. Because it can put additional load and birds might not feel comfortable while in flight.
But one of my friend said that they should serve food as much as possible and till the time of liberation.it was surprise for me. But he is in australia/brisbine and he said theeir club do so.

What are your thoughts on on birds liberation and food ?

Thanks

The question, one could ask one self maybe Tanveer in relation to this issue etc is do you wish to be a pigeon racer type or a pigeon lover type with feeding on the day of the liberation as such from my perspective. Can work both ways I suggest, but not for me I'm on average. Now true story One off the special type races we had this year here from 300 odd miles from a place called Mildura. Birds transported by a pigeon lover type of bloke, who I've known for 30 odd years has trouble thou, getting them home from the local park up his way here . Took it on himself thou to feed the birds on the morning of liberation which caused an outcry of huge proportions by those in the race when they found out as such but they in the end were the ones with egg on their face, as they all nearly had perfect returns from the race.

oldstrain wrote:

I personally would not feed to close to a liberation but would feed well leading up to day of basketing and also feed in the morning day of basketing also a handful of small seed for ybs mid afternoon day of basketing but only a small pinch per bird to get them to drink again before basketing ,the food/energy should be put into the bird in the lead up to the race. basket day should be a light feed but they do get an ounce each if they want it in the morning of a diet mix ...seems to work well here  

Totally agree, tried and tested method for one night in the race basket.
Maybe slightly differ for 2 nights, feed slightly more a.m. and something later in the afternoon of basketing.