York Road Flying Club

Asked him to look here. Input may benefit some one.

David wrote:

yes i agree misty, doesnt take much to add it to the prize card, and gives a better view of the race .

in our club we had a couple of members who had dominated the results for years, but since chuda joined, he and his mate (already a member, who usually would take  the odd position now and then) have knocked them off their perch so to speak .....we have now open our radius and allowed two more new members in, so it appears there is a more healthy level of competition between members, rather than the same two winning every race between them , more or less ....

Opening the boundary's sort of reminds me etc David it may just be a survival mode thing like down here in some places I could name. Phantom type names to boost ones image & people that have no interest any more, being signed up to reach a quorum to just keep a club in motion as such.
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halcanada81 wrote:

No more racing. However he posted on my site. New FB friend.
It doesn't happen often that we can compare results in 2 combines from the same station on the same day. This past weekend we had this situation with both the NRRPA and the UNC being in Latchford. The NRRPA released at 545 and the UNC at 615. It was a tough day with heat and SW winds along most of the course.
I shipped my limit of 20 birds in the UNC and my remaining 25 birds to the NRRPA. No particular order, just about half of my hens and cock to each race picked randomly.
My first birds home in the NRRPA were 5 hours and 50 minutes. I had 10 birds home in 55 min.
In the UNC race my first birds were exactly 6 hours and I had 10 birds home in 53 minutes.
To my loft there was virtually no difference in the time of flight or rate of returns.
Also missing 1 bird from each race. So my loft results are very similar.
In the combine the results are very different. In the NRRPA I was 4th by 26 seconds.
In the UNC I was 87th behind the winner by 38 minutes.
I should add that the UNC had 669 birds from 45 lofts and the NRRPA had 572 birds from 33 lofts. A joint release would have been over 1300 birds.
Good information to compare.

Interesting Hal 30 minutes difference at the release point at times when liberated can maybe change the dynamics of the whole outcome at the other end I could suggest.

Knackered wrote:

Opening the boundary's sort of reminds me etc David it may just be a survival mode thing like down here in some places I could name. Phantom type names to boost ones image & people that have no interest any more, being signed up to reach a quorum to just keep a club in motion as such.
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yes i reckon so too knackered, if our club is going to survive it needs new members .......i remember suggesting we opened the radius just after i rejoined around 8 years ago, they went mental, waving their walking sticks in the air saying they wouldnt do it ........

times change eh

No boundries this club. Plus 40 mile overfly for me. Like they said, "You not scared of us we are not scared of you." Other club I was in years ago stopped me flying. I had moved 5 miles South.

David wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Opening the boundary's sort of reminds me etc David it may just be a survival mode thing like down here in some places I could name. Phantom type names to boost ones image & people that have no interest any more, being signed up to reach a quorum to just keep a club in motion as such.
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yes i reckon so too knackered, if our club is going to survive it needs new members .......i remember suggesting we opened the radius just after i rejoined around 8 years ago, they went mental, waving their walking sticks in the air saying they wouldnt do it ........

times change eh

trouble makers David many of the walking stick brigade I'm . Ok to live in the past in some ways but many must just change their ways I feel if they wish for a future of any type of description in a pigeon sense.
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halcanada81 wrote:

No boundries this club. Plus 40 mile overfly for me. Like they said, "You not scared of us we are not scared of you." Other club I was in years ago stopped me flying. I had moved 5 miles South.

thats some radius then hal, 40 mile overfly .......

halcanada81 wrote:

No boundries this club. Plus 40 mile overfly for me. Like they said, "You not scared of us we are not scared of you." Other club I was in years ago stopped me flying. I had moved 5 miles South.

Flown here in the past Hal in a specialist/open club that I gave away 60 odd miles in over fly etc. Win some you loose some type of thing & I never went to bed thinking I was hard done by when beating as such. Little fat bloke       I've mentioned here     at times, flew for years in a real sh*te hole of an area in a pigeon sense     & all it did was make him try harder to beat those in a better position on the day.  
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Knackered wrote:

trouble makers David many of the walking stick brigade I'm . Ok to live in the past in some ways but many must just change their ways I feel if they wish for a future of any type of description in a pigeon sense.
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i didnt think our club would be still going in 5 years time, but by the radius being opened up, and new members joining, it might just survive a bit longer .........

David wrote:

halcanada81 wrote:

No boundries this club. Plus 40 mile overfly for me. Like they said, "You not scared of us we are not scared of you." Other club I was in years ago stopped me flying. I had moved 5 miles South.

thats some radius then hal, 40 mile overfly .......

spitting distance etc David little fat bloke now fly's in a club here with open boundary's. Take any body there whose game to give it a try as such no matter what, in an area roughly 70 miles X 30 odd    .
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David wrote:

Knackered wrote:

trouble makers David many of the walking stick brigade I'm . Ok to live in the past in some ways but many must just change their ways I feel if they wish for a future of any type of description in a pigeon sense.
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i didnt think our club would be still going in 5 years time, but by the radius being opened up, and new members joining, it might just survive a bit longer .........

Local centre had a meeting here last week etc David, 4 years is the best scenario apparently. Gone in my time from a hundred members & 3500 birds going away there to now 8/10 members if your lucky & 400 odd birds to start the season off as such.

There many problems with regard to lifting boundaries and amalgamating clubs etc;

The vast number of fanciers are not spring chickens.

Many have no transport.

Many are not in the best of health.

I know that in some clubs the younger members will help as much as they can, in the last club I was in all I needed to do is watch the younger members do everything for me, even gave me a seat to watch them do all the work, not my style so I very reluctantly called it a day.

Even offered to help at home.

However, this I feel is not the norm.

The fact is that the memberships average age is such that with the lack of new members the sport will soon not be a viable financial proposition other than for the rich.

Wish I could see a way out but matters have been left to rot during the past 45 years or so and the Hall Report shows the total lack of concern by those who have run the sport for that length of time.

Regards.

clubs will have to open there boundaries else they will be finished ....oz uk pigeon racing is not far behind the 4 year scenario ,then it will be one loft and specialist clubs only ...sad but true

This leaves what will happen to the RPRA when there are too few to make it a viable organisation.

The numbers involved in OLR and Specialist Clubs will never be enough to support the upkeep of the RPRA and those responsible for it's decline will not be bothered because they have had their cosy meetings and trips abroad etc; for over 45years in some cases.

Fanciers own fault for letting them.

Regards.

yeah wont be long now eh ....our club is creaking at the seams with a few hanging up there t3 end of the year

Doom and gloom! Yesterday is gone. Tomorow may never come. Live for the day! Armeggedon? Who knows when. Personnaly do not care.

halcanada81 wrote:

Doom and gloom! Yesterday is gone. Tomorow may never come. Live for the day! Armeggedon? Who knows when. Personnaly do not care.

i like your way of thinking there hal.............

we may have our last season this year and revert back to just keeping a few as pets ,all stock is going in september irrespective ,will just breed from racers if we stay in the racing game ...alfies getting older and wants more of my time and he can certainly have it ,will always have a few birds about though always did before we started racing ,will decide in the winter it may be a whole lot easier if we cut out the stock aspect no doom and gloom just real observations at my club/organisation

oldstrain wrote:

we may have our last season this year and revert back to just keeping a few as pets ,all stock is going in september irrespective ,will just breed from racers if we stay in the racing game ...alfies getting older and wants more of my time and he can certainly have it ,will always have a few birds about though always did before we started racing ,will decide in the winter it may be a whole lot easier if we cut out the stock aspect no doom and gloom just real observations at my club/organisation

Many, many reasons why things are falling apart etc I suggest O/S in a pigeon sense. Means little thou I suspect when placed beside a happy family environment for most on average I suggest. & take care.

Very important time in Alfie's life oldstrain as you well know, only young once and when all the best or worst are instilled in the young.

You could always have a go in the OL races.

Young enough to have a go when Alfie leaves the nest, although as things appear seems little chance of the sport surviving in any meaningful manner.

Lets just hope for the best.

Regards.

well we will race old birds next year and probably just hens ,the cocks that are left after this year can stay we have a couple of old favs to ...we have extra hens so can have some fun with them and still leave plenty time for the wee of course he has been home so therefore been tugging the shirt for a playmate bless him ...i did empty the end section of stock shed and said its his to do what he wants with ,his own little mancave he is chuffed to bits ,rug and chairs and table and radio too also a striplight in there and heater mum has already been told to stay out but dad gets a special pass bless him

He might even let you sit in there while waiting for the birds to come home darren ....

David wrote:

He might even let you sit in there while waiting for the birds to come home darren ....

....always method in the madness eh david cant see the birds coming from the race from there though ,i usually end up soaked waiting outside the loft on a raceday ,mrs thinks i'm nuts but seeing them wings fold is the best bit

oldstrain wrote:

David wrote:

He might even let you sit in there while waiting for the birds to come home darren ....

 ....always method in the madness eh david cant see the birds coming from the race from there though ,i usually end up soaked waiting outside the loft on a raceday ,mrs thinks i'm nuts but seeing them wings fold is the best bit

lynn says its an illness darren ......

wonder if the doctor could give us anything for it

Nothing better, first or last bird folding it's wings from a great height and diving towards the loft.

My best memories involve same.

Regards.