Main Feed base

What do you use as the main base for you feed.
I tried to give mine a bit of posh grub for a change I gave them 1 part  verseile laga all round mix and 2 parts Versailles laga Wheat.
Their droppings were horrible very loose and wet, I thought they were I’ll, but they were still bouncing and looked fine.
I ran out of that grub, so I went down the local pet shop and bought their economy mix it’s been £10 a sack for as long as I can remember it’s very basic,
Wheat, maples, beans, barley, peas, safflower, Dari and big maize.
They’ve only been on it a few day days and their droppings are perfect.

I think it was too much wheat that made them loose, I’m thinking of making barley my base feed, but they don’t seem to like it that much.

always peas and maize as a base the smaller grains are a smaller percentage of the mix for me steve ,i do use about 25% depuratve and the barley content of that is my indicator as when they start to leave that i know i am feeding just a tad to much i like to see most of the birds losing interest in the feed when theres just a few grains of barley left but all still gets eaten if you know what i mean atb

Same happened to us , too much wheat droppings not as good , changed it back to normal moulting mix

peel bros wrote:

Same happened to us , too much wheat droppings not as good , changed it back to normal moulting mix

Always felt here get the fibre content right etc when feeding & wet/loose droppings are less of a concern as such, as long as the general heath issue is also in tune when feeding.

I like to feed a good strong mix with plenty of maple peas and a good percentage of maize and other seeds I do add some diat mix in as well but I keep away from barley droppings always go soft mind you at this time of the year the droppings are more wet then usual with all the moisture around

Have them on South's racing prestige that's my base mix a good clean mix it is

i feed the corn shops own racing and breeding mix all year round, its cheap, 27.5kg bags and its pretty decent stuff ...........also give tk conditioner with it daily .

Farm shop is every thing. saving money ... or rather not wasting it lol

they clean it every bit as good now a day too! even will- many will - even put a cleaning through again in front of you!

Daz wrote:

Farm shop is every thing. saving money ... or rather not wasting it lol

they clean it every bit as good now a day too! even will- many will - even put a cleaning through again in front of you!

Might just be better Daz in some ways for the pigeons  instead of cleaning it a dozen times over to just throw a shovel of dirt in with it etc, maybe .

days are long gone when i`d buy named brand corn for silly money, birds dont look any different or breed better ybs .....

Remember when the wife's would clean using a stocking.... then tights lol.

Knackered wrote:

Daz wrote:

Farm shop is every thing. saving money ... or rather not wasting it lol

they clean it every bit as good now a day too! even will- many will - even put a cleaning through again in front of you!

Might just be better Daz in some ways for the pigeons  instead of cleaning it a dozen times over to just throw a shovel of dirt in with it etc, maybe .

Agree 100%  with that Knackered, a good clump of soil would put back all the goodness cleaning takes out, of course the commercial boys have other ways of putting them back, you just have to read what some fanciers put down their poor pigeons throats.

Regards.

i think you have to provide plenty of sources for the breeders especially winter breeding ,make sure they have all they need ,i could not give open loft here it would be suicide at this tlme of year ,maybe when the raptors have gone to nest but no point dwelling on whats not happening eh ,plenty clay and black minerals and crushed oyster shell grit and redstone is provided and refreshed daily ...i like to use versel laga start plus ic breeding mix ,yes its expensive but i like its constitution and trust the company as have never had a bad bag yet ,had plenty farm corn harbouring mould though especially on the ears of the maize even had some maples that were mouldy ,wish i did have a trusty grain merchant/grower but none about here ...barley and wheat awful to ,very flat all husk no good to me ,if you can get a good clean mix at reasonable prices all well and good ,there is an odd occassion for good tic beans though and linseed ,also rape seed but i use very little rape seed so have no need to buy ...i add plenty groats to my breeding mix to in fact all year round atb

Put a turf in when I can dig one.

halcanada81 wrote:

Put a turf in when I can dig one.

if i lived where you did i would to but would not trust owt from round my area as probably been sprayed etc...nowt better than a turf

Yes this location does have advantages. No sprays on my lawn.
The crops get sprayed. Had to shoot a dog few months ago. Just too far gone. Hard after 11 years or so. However life goes on. Set your goals and go for them. Takes out the boredom of life. All in the trying!!

I had a leading brands Maples. Never thought regards checking if damp etc. Damp. gave birds two feed. All hell broke loose. As I have often posted. Canker 33%. Allowed 0.3and Iron 40%. Allowed 0.4.5.

Wifey is making use of my Loft! Wouldn't entertain the idea of Seed potatoes in Peat / fertiliser bags. Not a little dark corner for mushrooms. Mind needs to be a wide variety of Mushrooms to make it interesting.

Am toying with other as such.

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