Vaciation and the effects.

MISTY wrote:

Hope everything went well Knackered at the hospital felt a wee bit concerned for you, to say a bit peed off may be nearer the mark.

As for the virus jab.

Friends rang to say they were having different side effects, the only ones we have had are dizzy spells and sickness with regard to my wife and myself wanting to sleep all the time.

However, friends who had the jab the same time as we did have today said they had different side effects (we asked them to give usa ring if they had any such).

Feeling cold when in front of the fire, pain in the arm, feeling sick, headache and just not feeling with it.

They all had the jab either the same day as us or the day before.

There are six couples involved all over 80.

Regards.

thanks for the concern etc Misty in regards to the wee type thing 5 hours in hospital yesterday & since I got home for the last 18 hours, all I have been doing is pissing blood by the bucket load here I'm . Now back to the corona issue mentioned here where New Zealand have just reported a new case after 2 months of nothing & our government straight away stopped all flights from there  landing here & on the some news it also mentioned, apparently their are still 10,000 people a day landing at Heathrow airport there coming into your country still. Not rocket science I suggest, but how the hell such a thing can still be allowed to happen in your neck of the woods there totally baffles me here 'I'm with the way the corona issue is playing out around the planet these days with the pandemic. & take care

Hope the problem is solved forthwith Knackered, cannot be very pleasant.

As for those being allowed into our country almost unchecked.

There appears neither sense nor reason involved.

Think they have flock immunity in mind but going the wrong way about it.

Would take years for it to work and would  not be only the old people that suffered.

Think the next couple of months  will throw some light on all relative matters.

Regards.

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

MISTY wrote:

My heart  goes out to the young children of today, their whole life has been turned upside down, cannot think of a similar situation in my lifetime and that includes a World War.

The virus problem must be solved to give them the chance of a normal life.
 
Tis not the young children who are the problem in doing so but the irresponsible youths and the socialites who think they are not at risk.

We take the eaiest way to the bowling green that we walk Misty round twice a day no one else uses it the other dog walkers go along the coast path, it is only a 10 minute drive from home but includes going round the Marine Drive and there are more cars  and people on the sea front than you see in the summer no masks in sight in most cases and social distancing an impossibility.

Cannot to be reasonable see how the police can seperate those who have come for a day out from outside town to others but none are keeping to the rules, regarding the Lock Down.

I know the Government have apparently made many mistakes ( although we do not know all the facts) but that is no excuse for flouting the rules.

Just wish all would work together for a solution.

Regards

nice to see some thought for the kids in all this virus issue,it is and does have an effect on them it stops their progression socially and mentally and also puts extra pressure on us parents to occupy / entertain / educate them ...no big deal its what i signed up for but with the wife basically bed-ridden last 2 weeks its been difficult ...wont get any better as her issue is getting worse its a degenerative disease of the spine and cant be cured so juggling alfie the home and pigeons oh and the dog things are quite busy ...but alfie is getting more clingy to me he had started to socialise more prior to the virus ,his education is on track though as we make sure he does his 3 hours online and then give extra topics each week ,also 1 hour PE everyday but its the social aspect thats missing from his life us parents can take what you throw but what damage is it doing to the kids on that social level   atb

My thoughts here & feelings go out to you etc O/S along with the little champ there with the situation with your wife there at the moment. Go back in time & I spent over 6 months confined to my bed in a full back brace here in the hope of somehow getting back to something like normal. Work load & stress on my Joyce at the time   was hard to say the least       so fully understand what you would be going through there at the moment & all I can do now is wish every concerned there the best what ever that may be type of thing looking to the future. & take care.

thanks oz is what it is eh just have to make the most of it like others do and get on with it best way possible,hope your ok fella dont sound very nice what yer going through yerself i hope it settles down for you... on the covid issue my mother had her jab on saturday morning and no side effects whatsoever ...all the people i have heard with side effects showed them within 48 hours of vaccine and some worse than others ,as for closing our borders they want to sort that damn channel out as there was an outbreak of over 120 cases in a immigrant halfway house in kent major outbreak in that complex/campus not to mention the ones that go awol eh

This whole situation regarding illegals is a real problem no easy answers available.

They are humans and although many are just ordinary people wanting to come here and work for a better way of life there are legal means of doing so.

It is the trafficers who are the real problem.

At the present time we pick up those in unseaworthy crafts and give them a nice journey for the rest of the way and then fix them up with all they need until they are accessed regarding staying permanantly.

Very few are sent back.

I watch border patrol etc; in other countries and even if one is a desirable they have to have complied with all the rules OR THEY ARE SENT STRAIGHT BACK FROM WENCE THEY CAME, often on the same day.

Tis a problem that has no easy solution and France is not going to make matters any easier.

Solution is blowing in the wind.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

This whole situation regarding illegals is a real problem no easy answers available.

They are humans and although many are just ordinary people wanting to come here and work for a better way of life there are legal means of doing so.

It is the trafficers who are the real problem.

At the present time we pick up those in unseaworthy crafts and give them a nice journey for the rest of the way and then fix them up with all they need until they are accessed regarding staying permanantly.

Very few are sent back.

I watch border patrol etc; in other countries and even if one is a desirable they have to have complied with all the rules OR THEY ARE SENT STRAIGHT BACK FROM WENCE THEY CAME, often on the same day.

Tis a problem that has no easy solution and France is not going to make matters any easier.

Solution is blowing in the wind.

Regards.

Said it before & I will say it again etc genuine refugees coming through the front door as such, wishing to adopt ours normal ways here I'm glad to adopt as a neighbour & friend. Back door types thou, no matter what excuse they may just come up with, I'm happy to send them all back on a slow boat to China/North Korea type of thing I'm   .

oldstrain wrote:

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

MISTY wrote:

My heart  goes out to the young children of today, their whole life has been turned upside down, cannot think of a similar situation in my lifetime and that includes a World War.

The virus problem must be solved to give them the chance of a normal life.
 
Tis not the young children who are the problem in doing so but the irresponsible youths and the socialites who think they are not at risk.

We take the eaiest way to the bowling green that we walk Misty round twice a day no one else uses it the other dog walkers go along the coast path, it is only a 10 minute drive from home but includes going round the Marine Drive and there are more cars  and people on the sea front than you see in the summer no masks in sight in most cases and social distancing an impossibility.

Cannot to be reasonable see how the police can seperate those who have come for a day out from outside town to others but none are keeping to the rules, regarding the Lock Down.

I know the Government have apparently made many mistakes ( although we do not know all the facts) but that is no excuse for flouting the rules.

Just wish all would work together for a solution.

Regards

nice to see some thought for the kids in all this virus issue,it is and does have an effect on them it stops their progression socially and mentally and also puts extra pressure on us parents to occupy / entertain / educate them ...no big deal its what i signed up for but with the wife basically bed-ridden last 2 weeks its been difficult ...wont get any better as her issue is getting worse its a degenerative disease of the spine and cant be cured so juggling alfie the home and pigeons oh and the dog things are quite busy ...but alfie is getting more clingy to me he had started to socialise more prior to the virus ,his education is on track though as we make sure he does his 3 hours online and then give extra topics each week ,also 1 hour PE everyday but its the social aspect thats missing from his life us parents can take what you throw but what damage is it doing to the kids on that social level   atb

My thoughts here & feelings go out to you etc O/S along with the little champ there with the situation with your wife there at the moment. Go back in time & I spent over 6 months confined to my bed in a full back brace here in the hope of somehow getting back to something like normal. Work load & stress on my Joyce at the time   was hard to say the least       so fully understand what you would be going through there at the moment & all I can do now is wish every concerned there the best what ever that may be type of thing looking to the future. & take care.

thanks oz is what it is eh just have to make the most of it like others do and get on with it best way possible,hope your ok fella dont sound very nice what yer going through yerself i hope it settles down for you... on the covid issue my mother had her jab on saturday morning and no side effects whatsoever ...all the people i have heard with side effects showed them within 48 hours of vaccine and some worse than others ,as for closing our borders they want to sort that damn channel out as there was an outbreak of over 120 cases in a immigrant halfway house in kent major outbreak in that complex/campus not to mention the ones that go awol eh

Have a feeling here I'm O/S the horse has bolted type of thing, unfortunately. 100,000 deaths just reported here on the news & Boris & his mob are still running around like a headless chook apparently       still wondering what to do too just confront the issue as such from my perspective here.

Me thinks a certain amount of consideration of the facts may be appropriate before 
comming to any conclusions.

Firstly, people did not nor are adhering to the proposals and laws regarding safeguarding themselves and others.

So no one can say the problem would not have been far less had they done so.

The Christmas fiasco did not help, half or more of  those moaning about not celebrating Christmas have no idea what it celebrates and just wanted a knees up irrespective of any consequences ( which we are seeing now)


The change in the virus has not helped.


Many of the 100,000 would probably have died  of other causes had the virus not appeared.


Even now the idiots are not adhering to the Law.


I would agree to Borris being judged if everyone had done as they should have done, otherwise totally unrepresentative of the facts as they would have been.


Regards.

plenty not listening misty i see daily just in my own suburb here ,mums chatting on street corners (same ones usually),kids out playing in the street(same ones again) joggers running up behind you in groups ffs why do you need someone to hold yer hand when jogging yeah plenty still doing there own thing

Many just want to do what they want. And stuff the rest!
Would be the first to moan though if neighbour or friend passed the virus on to one of their loved one resulting in death.
Truth id, many are death carriers. Sad but true.

A lit of people don't care. Let them try having it and that will change their minds . Its horrible.  I see mothers at schools ect without masks on chatting which really angers me . People going out as normal , as though nothing is happening...idiots

I am still not getting the vaccine until I feel happy to do so . As yet I am not convinced.  It probably is yes but that doubt I'm my mind stops me

From what I read, UK is ahead of any country with people vaccinated. Yet they are still dropping like flies.

A vacine takes time to be effective, very few have  had time to do so in this case.

The problem is people more than anything.

If you are told that if you put a gun to your head and it is loaded and you pull the trigger you will prbably die and you ignore the warning BANG.

That is exactly what is happening here.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

A vacine takes time to be effective, very few have  had time to do so in this case.

The problem is people more than anything.

If you are told that if you put a gun to your head and it is loaded and you pull the trigger you will prbably die and you ignore the warning BANG.

That is exactly what is happening here.

Regards.

Your right about the people aspect etc I'm I suspect Misty Many of your mob there I suggest watched on from the early days, at what was going on in Yanky land under idiot Trump in a virus sense & didn't fully have the brain matter to understand the exact same thing was actually happening local when looking at things on a one on one type basis.

Hardest thing will be - if effective, teaching, and telling folks that you can be a carrier and be passing it on to others. Death warnings !

Daz wrote:

Hardest thing will be - if effective, teaching, and telling folks that you can be a carrier and be passing it on to others. Death warnings !

Yes Daz, it is a problem regarding the passing on by those who are unaware they actually are infected.

Just heard on the news of ambulance crews in the early days and probably today who have had the virus with no obvious signs but could pass it on.

A proper test of the publics intention to comply with all that would help the situation is needed.

THankfully never had any calls last two days from friends regarding further side effects and the wife and myself have had no further problems.

Regards.

Another problem concerns those addicted to illegal drugs.

The Government is spending £150 million pounds in an endouvour to cut those users down.

Even in lockdown they wil find a way of getting their fix and not be two concerned about anything else.

With the amount estimated as used illegally there must be a considerable number of users, and these in all probability will be unknowns.

Regards.

My dad has his jab this Sunday and mom has had her letter to let her no she can have hers too try to get her an appointment at the same time I'm glad now

markevans wrote:

My dad has his jab this Sunday and mom has had her letter to let her no she can have hers too try to get her an appointment at the same time I'm glad now

Hope it goes  well have not seen any realy bad results so far.

Regards.

No misty I haven't as well had no quite a few people of all age groups that have had it and no side affects at all nor have I heard of anyone who has died from it better to have the jab then take the bigger risk one you might not win

MISTY wrote:

Daz wrote:

Hardest thing will be - if effective, teaching, and telling folks that you can be a carrier and be passing it on to others. Death warnings !

Yes Daz, it is a problem regarding the passing on by those who are unaware they actually are infected.

Just heard on the news of ambulance crews in the early days and probably today who have had the virus with no obvious signs but could pass it on.

A proper test of the publics intention to comply with all that would help the situation is needed.

THankfully never had any calls last two days from friends regarding further side effects and the wife and myself have had no further problems.

Regards.

Couldn't be more pleased your both feeling/looking a ok there now etc Misty after having the jab. End of the day even with the best of intentions, at times one still does not quite know if one has done the right thing in the end. Now especially after looking up the latest standings for the best & the worst countries in how they have effectively attacked the virus issue & apparently you stand in at around 62th place compared to tragic Trump in 94th place & myself here in a happy 8th spot .

Knackered wrote:

MISTY wrote:

Daz wrote:

Hardest thing will be - if effective, teaching, and telling folks that you can be a carrier and be passing it on to others. Death warnings !

Yes Daz, it is a problem regarding the passing on by those who are unaware they actually are infected.

Just heard on the news of ambulance crews in the early days and probably today who have had the virus with no obvious signs but could pass it on.

A proper test of the publics intention to comply with all that would help the situation is needed.

THankfully never had any calls last two days from friends regarding further side effects and the wife and myself have had no further problems.

Regards.

Couldn't be more pleased your both feeling/looking a ok there now etc Misty after having the jab. End of the day even with the best of intentions, at times one still does not quite know if one has done the right thing in the end. Now especially after looking up the latest standings for the best & the worst countries in how they have effectively attacked the virus issue & apparently you stand in at around 62th place compared to tragic Trump in 94th place & myself here in a happy 8th spot .

Think we would maybe  have waited for our own vacine, only need one jab
and apparently will be ready within a few days and it can deal with one of the new variations.

A row going on regarding the supply of the vacine we had with the EU so there is no guarantee we can have our second jab when we should.

Trust everything well at your end and the rebels behaving themselves.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

Knackered wrote:

MISTY wrote:

Daz wrote:

Hardest thing will be - if effective, teaching, and telling folks that you can be a carrier and be passing it on to others. Death warnings !

Yes Daz, it is a problem regarding the passing on by those who are unaware they actually are infected.

Just heard on the news of ambulance crews in the early days and probably today who have had the virus with no obvious signs but could pass it on.

A proper test of the publics intention to comply with all that would help the situation is needed.

THankfully never had any calls last two days from friends regarding further side effects and the wife and myself have had no further problems.

Regards.

Couldn't be more pleased your both feeling/looking a ok there now etc Misty after having the jab. End of the day even with the best of intentions, at times one still does not quite know if one has done the right thing in the end. Now especially after looking up the latest standings for the best & the worst countries in how they have effectively attacked the virus issue & apparently you stand in at around 62th place compared to tragic Trump in 94th place & myself here in a happy 8th spot .

Think we would maybe  have waited for our own vacine, only need one jab
and apparently will be ready within a few days and it can deal with one of the new variations.

A row going on regarding the supply of the vacine we had with the EU so there is no guarantee we can have our second jab when we should.

Trust everything well at your end and the rebels behaving themselves.

Regards.

Turning into a bit of a dog eat dog type scenario maybe now apparently Misty it appears the love thy neighbour bit is gone I'm   seeing as you have left the EU there now . & take care.

Still got the idiots holding parties in our town, local paper giving the numbers of those fined.

Do not think they are bothered about the money side all they want is to have their drug parties, recreational of course.  

Only way I think would knock some sense into them would be to take them straight into a hosptal and see what is happening to the poor souls they have put their and put a mask on them and make them do some work cleaning up etc;

Too soft with idiots casing carnage.

Regards.

plenty of arrests in my hometown a few raves have been broken up at disused warehouses