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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 9:32 am

    Although Borris has made a few mistakes he was unexpectedly presented with a situation where no one had a reasonable answer,  he had the EU situation to deal with and was ill himself.

    If people had respected the plans put in place then a reasonable assessment of his actions could be made, as it is no one can blame him.

    He is  a HERO.???????.

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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 9:47 am

    Well let them all be fined. Money will be handy considering the amount we have had to borrow so far. Indeed higher the fines! then lock them up later and give them an I.Q. test Wink
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 10:07 am

    Daz wrote:
    Well let them all be fined. Money will be handy considering the amount we have had to borrow so far. Indeed higher the fines! then lock them up later and give them an I.Q. test  Wink

    lol! lol! lol!
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 11:03 am

    For the detractors of the Borris and the virus scenrio.

    He could have just said well it is an unfortunate fact that we have a problem.

    We have a very serious virus doing the rounds and it is killing many people to which we have no answer at the moment.

    It has  obviously come at a very inconvenient time, the EU and my personal life situation is more than enough for anyone to deal with.

    So I have two options, attempt to control the spread of the virus and in doing so it will have many serious affects on the lives of the population,cost billions of pounds and at the same time give assistance to as many inconvenienced work wise as possible as with as many businesses as possible, if everyone pulls their weight then we can get through this together.

    Or, tough luck.

    We are very fortunate to have a leader with heart.

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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 11:28 am

    We are very fortunate to have a leader with heart.

    Don't know about the brain though. Too conniving and selfish and on side for the able and rich.
    Like he knew regards the Fishing problems AND WHAT they would be. So put the fisheries to be doomed. Yes intentionally too. obvious that!
    Puts ships in channel to protect our fishers lol. What a mean and deceit horror, contrived to off lay truth eh!
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 11:44 am

    Daz wrote:
    We are very fortunate to have a leader with heart.

    Don't know about the brain though. Too conniving and selfish and on side for the able and rich.
    Like he knew regards the Fishing problems AND WHAT they would be. So put the fisheries to be doomed. Yes intentionally too. obvious that!
    Puts ships in channel to protect our fishers lol. What a mean and deceit horror, contrived to off lay truth eh!
    Tis easy to be judgemental when not being aware of all the facts.

    Cannot realy understand all the problems with THE RICH.

    Their money enables many businesses to flourish, they cannot eat it and I know of more unhappy monied people than poor.

    Suicide amongst them higher than the general public as is all other problems like drugs not to mention many of their offspring not lasting very long.

    If there were easy solutions then there would be no problems, it is solving those involving problems of a complicated nature that needs due consideration and the general public have no idea of much that  is involved and therefore not in a position to be jugemental.

    Politics and religion ????????.

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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 11:50 am

    Are but Boris the muppet, king of the Buffoons, did know the facts. purposely agreed and allowed it! Thatcher reincarnated?!
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 12:00 pm

    Daz wrote:
    Are but Boris the muppet, king of the Buffoons, did know the facts. purposely agreed and allowed it! Thatcher reincarnated?!

    you have it in one daz, boris is not the buffoon people think he is, he is a very cunning and calculated man.
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 1:13 pm

    Funny business Daz, politics.

    There is no doubt whatsoever that Baire and several of his cronies should be in jail for multiple murders by fabricating evidence that resulted in multiple deaths of innocent people.

    Yet the creature is attempting to return to politics.

    That is irrefutable.

    Borris has maybe made mistakes, tell me anyone that has not?   

    We do not know the complications that may be involved in any of the negotiations that take place but a lot of speculation is often involved.

    Not realy interested in politics myself but do not like to see speculation rather than facts.

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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 4:18 pm

    Regarded over here as a reasonably smart guy.
    However, 300,000 emigrants from Hong Kong will be allowed in? To the UK?
    The Chinese will not allow it and Boris is banking on that. But he gets points for the 'humanitarian' offer.
    Here we import a lot of seasonal workers. Cannot really do without them. But with Covid? Who knows?
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 7:04 pm

    No maybe mistakes Misty! Indeed most deliberate one lol.
    one only has to see how he has defended those 'Bang out of Order' to the hilt!

    Any way, I do do politics.... just truths lol. Wink Very Happy
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    I totally agree that he should have taken action against any wrong doing by anyone, irrespective of who they are but in times of a real unexpected problem that could possibly be disasterous those in positions of power have to make decisions often on the spur of the moment based on the possiblities involved which the layman is totally unaware of.

    Would far prefer decisions made by the driver than the back seat passenger, who in all probability is only knows half that is involved.

    Borris is a great guy.

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    littlehen wrote:
    Daz wrote:
    Are but Boris the muppet, king of the Buffoons, did know the facts. purposely agreed and allowed it! Thatcher reincarnated?!

    you have it in one daz, boris is not the buffoon people think he is, he is a very cunning and calculated man.
    Smile Smile Wink Wink. cheers
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptySun Jan 31, 2021 10:49 pm

    MISTY wrote:
    Although Borris has made a few mistakes he was unexpectedly presented with a situation where no one had a reasonable answer,  he had the EU situation to deal with and was ill himself.

    If people had respected the plans put in place then a reasonable assessment of his actions could be made, as it is no one can blame him.

    He is  a HERO.???????.

    Regards. rendeer
    Very Happy Very Happy a HERO Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes interesting way of putting it etc Misty Smile Smile Certain people bounce bounce are saying the same thing about Trump also, still Wink Wink. cheers & take care.
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    Knackered wrote:
    MISTY wrote:
    Although Borris has made a few mistakes he was unexpectedly presented with a situation where no one had a reasonable answer,  he had the EU situation to deal with and was ill himself.

    If people had respected the plans put in place then a reasonable assessment of his actions could be made, as it is no one can blame him.

    He is  a HERO.???????.

    Regards. rendeer
    Very Happy Very Happy a HERO Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes interesting way of putting it etc Misty Smile Smile Certain people bounce bounce are saying the same thing about Trump also, still Wink Wink. cheers & take care.
    No comparison between Trump and our Hero Knackered.

    Firstly Borris does not make all the decisions, and maybe some he has to impliment he may not actually agee with, Trump did what he wanted with no one capable of objecting.

    Borris has advisers, no one is conversant with all matters of state and matters are decided by the majority of  the cabinet.

    Borris had a pregnant partner, was suffering from the virus himself and also had the EU problem to deal with, the latter against all the odds he succeded in finalising.

    It may be that in some cases he did not agree  with the policy adopted.

    Impossible to compare the two all circumstances other than the virus it's self different.

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    MISTY wrote:
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    MISTY wrote:
    Although Borris has made a few mistakes he was unexpectedly presented with a situation where no one had a reasonable answer,  he had the EU situation to deal with and was ill himself.

    If people had respected the plans put in place then a reasonable assessment of his actions could be made, as it is no one can blame him.

    He is  a HERO.???????.

    Regards. rendeer
    Very Happy Very Happy a HERO Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes interesting way of putting it etc Misty Smile Smile Certain people bounce bounce are saying the same thing about Trump also, still Wink Wink. cheers & take care.
    No comparison between Trump and our Hero Knackered.

    Firstly Borris does not make all the decisions, and maybe some he has to impliment he may not actually agee with, Trump did what he wanted with no one capable of objecting.

    Borris has advisers, no one is conversant with all matters of state and matters are decided by the majority of  the cabinet.

    Borris had a pregnant partner, was suffering from the virus himself and also had the EU problem to deal with, the latter against all the odds he succeded in finalising.

    It may be that in some cases he did not agree  with the policy adopted.

    Impossible to compare the two all circumstances other than the virus it's self different.

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    Smile Smile you see Boris for his good parts I suspect/suggest Misty Wink Wink I see 100,000 odd dead from the virus issue etc I'm  affraid in your neck of the woods there. For some one Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes to have more deaths on a one on one type basis than tragic Trump Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad & he be called a HERO in capitals  bounce  bounce  is somewhat baffling for myself here  Wink Wink the way I think. cheers Smile Smile & take care.
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    PostSubject: Re: Vaciation and the effects.   Vaciation and the effects. - Page 3 EmptyMon Feb 01, 2021 10:12 am

    The numbers regading death are distressing Knackered and my thoughts go out to all concerned, however, as I have said previously, you canot make a decision  on the way matters turned out when the safeguards suggested were totally ignored and still are.

    The spread has been mainly due to ignoring large gatherings and social distancing.

    The mindless idiots who think even if they get it, it will just be a little inconvenience.
     
    Also many of the deaths involved those with little time left in any case, not that everyone should not receive as much assistance as possible for a longer life as possible and as comfotable as possible, just a fact.

    So no one choose how clever they are can judge on a matter where the efforts to deal with a problem were totally ignored.

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