Jumping pigeons

What do you think of jumping pigeons over 150 miles or so from previous race points. I know distance birds bred for the job handle this, or at least have the breeding to handle this, but how about yearlings maybe going from 70 miles to 220 for example?

are you considering doing it with yours colin ......?

if so , if it was me i definately wouldnt, but i doubt very much that you would .......

i think even for experienced birds it would be a big ask .

Last year I raced.

18 yearlings never seen a basket, complete open loft.

8 sent straigt to first race, all home in good time.

Other 8 straight into the second race, all back in good time.

Well up with the local clubs.

With lung and other health problems I decided as I could not do my share at club level it was unfair, the members offered to do all the work and help me as much as possible but I felt I had had enough.

Decided as a last hurra to send 4 to the first chanel race 350miles .

Never been in a basket other than one race each.

Clocked two, still in sealed STB, one turned up a little later in the day and the other I do not know because I was too off colour to worry.

I always got as much pleasure (often more) to see the last one home.


All you need is good pigeons, good management and a lot of luck.

Actual is far better than assumption.

Regards.

thinking of putting a few hens to one side then set them up on eggs for races @200 plus miles but they would miss the in between races coming into egg, laying and getting down sitting so would mean jumping a fair distance as they get down the road fast with being reduced season. We'll see, got bit time to decide.

Would not worry about jumping them barnie, if they fly half as good as they look you will have no problem and at least you will sort them out.

Just think how far many wild birds fly when the less than 9 months old.

Think the only time you need a particular type of pigeon is when you get over 500 miles.

Regards.

cheers!

David wrote:

are you considering doing it with yours colin ......?

if so , if it was me i definately wouldnt, but i doubt very much that you would .......

i think even for experienced birds it would be a big ask .

For myself here etc David it all comes down, to the faith one has in the quality of ones birds as such & your liberator on race day. If an average type pigeon cannot fly 250 odd miles of the roof with normal training go get better pigeons I say Young birds here do it on the trot & have done so for many years so to suggest its something yearlings would struggle with is rather complexing somewhat for/from my way of thinking here. Now sadly     in some ways, we have 2 types of pigeons in our world these days I suggest, the paper pedigree types       & then the John Rumney clan types from up around our beloved Rays way   which for me are the Brave heart types from my perspective down here & the ones I most admire    .  

I personally don't like jumping birds too far and I think we at 85 is too far for first race as well . I think it should be 50 miles between races

yes knackered i agree to a certain extent, but when you consider colins birds have only been trained as young birds, and have had only one proper race so far as yearlings.......if they were experienced racers then yes a jumpshouldnt hurt them, but even so jumping 150 miles is a tall order in my opinion

There has never been a fancier who has all good pigeons.

The so called top fanciers with all the advantages  sell their rubbish.

Can see no sense in not sorting the wheat from the chaff as quicly as possible and you do not do that by not testing them and making things as easy as possible to get them all back.

I did at times, being as interested in showing as racing, keep some that  would never  ever win at racing, but did send them and not bothered how long they took to qualify for the flown classes, because  of looks and handling qualities.


Winning was  a bonus, but lets be honest we all like too win.

Regards.

David wrote:

yes knackered i agree to a certain extent, but when you consider colins birds have only been trained as young birds, and have had only one proper race so far as yearlings.......if they were experienced racers then yes a jumpshouldnt hurt them, but even so jumping 150 miles is a tall order in my opinion

It was a time when nigh every fancier just sent youngsters to the first race. We had split the Fed in two for placing. So it was a 70 miler followed by 100 miles, repeated.
I just sent first time 140 miler to Northallerton... Like so many others.
The last few years, I did the same, as often said. But then I never tossed, and it was yearlings - never bothered with y/b racing, and any two years old not sent before.
They were nigh always in the top 6 in any race. Never out of maximum 10! Remember two fanciers- of 29 fanciers, sent nearly two hundred birds between them.

Losses off the loft meant that they didn't like my set up and hopped it.
Just lazing around endowed them with contentment and love of home, a warm and safe environment they could nip in if needs be.
They wanted to be there! Yes granted an open loft!
Youngsters ranging go 60 or more miles around. Only fit and healthy, conditioned pigeons win races Mostly/ normally. Training if cooped up, or for Fanciers views on their well being takes a front seat so to say.

i would view every pigeon as an individual for the jump for starters,wind and conditions would be a factor to ,always did jump a few but never the team just the ones i really fancied for it ,then mind you never ever had a big team to start with through choice of course ,atb

peel bros wrote:

I personally don't like jumping birds too far and I think we at 85 is too far for first race as well . I think it should be 50 miles between races

Your maybe too kind etc Ray treat them like boys & they will act like boys in most cases I say     A couple of weeks down here every year we have a race from the south across Bass Strait (240 odd miles) & also a come back 300 mile race on line up north which ever that line may be here for the year & most that fly them, being young birds then go on to fly in our 5 & 600 mile races in the following few weeks. I know many facets of our sport these days can fit into the Rome scenario package, but just wish somehow     some would allow at times     boys show they can do a mans type job if given half a chance on race day as such if made of the right stuff    .
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