sCUM treats us at scum

Boris Johnson is out to get Kathryn Stone, the standards commissioner. He mustn’t succeed!

Scum treating his voters like SCUM. Old brigade says it is his right. Also the posh wealthy ignorant scum state that it right and will always be som - True that eh! Spouting that it is always been so. And Boris intends just to carry on pouring lies, deciet and disdain on the working class ... that very ones the wealthy exploit!

Politics as spectacle used to be a struggle between two leaders from opposing parties contending to lead the country. New Labour did things differently, when two leaders from the same party fought for the right to lead the country. Now, the Brexit Conservative Party has taken it one stage further, and we are paying to watch the epic struggle between two Boris Johnson's seeking to guide the nation’s affairs.

The first Boris Johnson is an entitled Tory of the old school, who hangs around with rich people who pay for his holidays and wallpaper, which he thinks is nobody’s business but his own. The second Boris Johnson is a new kind of politician who understands how fed up people are with politicians like the first Boris Johnson. The second Boris put himself at the head of a revolt against an establishment that had conspired to keep the unheard majority in a European superstate.

The drama of the past few days has been entirely a conflict between the two sides of the prime minister’s personality. On Wednesday, Tory MPs were whipped by the first Boris Johnson to vote, in effect, to get rid of Kathryn Stone, the independent standards commissioner, who had asked impertinent questions about the funding of Johnson’s holiday in Mustique after the 2019 election.
On Thursday, Jacob Rees-Mogg was sent to the Commons by the second Boris Johnson to say that the coup against an independent watchdog was a terrible mistake and that he was calling it off. Owen Paterson, the Tory former cabinet minister who thought he had been rescued by his friends in high places – and unwisely gave an interview saying he would lobby for payment again – was cast to the outer darkness. Much damage had been done to the prime minister’s reputation, but at least the second Boris Johnson had limited it.
Then, on Friday, the first Boris Johnson fought back. No, he wasn’t going to put a figure on how much his Spanish holiday at the Goldsmith family’s villa was worth, and no, he wasn’t going to put it in the Register of Members’ Interests where Stone could get at it – he was going to declare it in the List of Ministers’ Interests instead.

All such struggles at the top of politics are fascinating, and this one is no less interesting because it is being fought out between two halves of the same brain. It adds to the entertainment that many on the left dislike both Johnsons equally: one because he is a Tory, the other because he is a Brexiteer. However, the ruthless election-winning man of the people is on the defensive, because the entitled Tory of the old school still thinks he can get away with it.
It is important that he shouldn’t, because that would be a backwards step on to a slippery slope. And it is encouraging that other players have entered the scene. The thing about epic political struggles is that they draw attention away from other characters, as William Hague, Iain Duncan Smith and Michael Howard discovered in the New Labour era, and as even Rishi Sunak is discovering now. Yet Boris Johnson is not hogging all the limelight.
Tory MPs as a collective body forced Thursday’s U-turn. Their reaction against having been whipped into doing the wrong thing was so furious that even the first Boris Johnson knew he wouldn’t be able to see it through. Let us pause to praise the 13 Tory heroes of the people who voted against the government, and the many more who abstained.Now, it is good to see others come to the defence of Stone, who has done a difficult job as standards commissioner with impartial thoroughness.

It is unusual for the non-MP members of the standards committee to give interviews, but Tammy Banks was quite right to respond to the attack on Stone by Kwasi Kwarteng, the business secretary. Kwarteng said on Thursday morning, before the U-turn: “It’s difficult to see what the future of the commissioner is, given that we’re reviewing the process, but it’s up to the commissioner.”
Banks, who is one of seven independent outsiders on the 14-person committee to which Stone reports, said today: 'I was upset and really disappointed'. She rejected “slanderous comments” about Stone – referring to Paterson’s complaints about her investigation into his case – “which I’ve just been appalled by because she works hard, she does her best, and above everything else, she’s fair'.
This is important because I have heard Westminster insiders say, as a sorrowful observation rather than a vendetta, that Stone will have to go because she has fallen out with the government. They point to Elizabeth Firkin, the second commissioner, whose three-year term wasn’t renewed in 2002 after Labour ministers bridled at some of her decisions.

Stone has a five-year term that runs until the end of next year. She must be allowed to see it through. The rules on standards in public life are designed to avoid conflicts of interest. They must apply to the prime minister, and be seen to apply to him. Both of him.

Boris Johnson will achieve nothing if he takes Parliament for granted, a former minister has said amidst the Owen Paterson scandal.
Former Defence minister Tobias Ellwood warned the Prime Minister would risk becoming “just another former occupant of Number 10” following the Government’s U-turn on overhauling the policing of MPs’ conduct.
He claimed there was “genuine rage within the ranks”, and called on the Government to provide the leadership the country needed to see during these testing times.
Writing in The Sun, he said: “A PM who takes Parliament for granted will achieve none of these things and simply end up, not as a big beast, but as just another former occupant of No 10.
'This mess should be used as an opportunity to press the reset button on the entire Parliament-government relationship, then regroup. There is genuine rage within the ranks. 'Constituents have been rightly appalled by what they have seen. One system for MPs, another for the public'. Mr Ellwood’s criticism swiftly follows that of Sir John Major, who said the Prime Minister’s handling of the Paterson case was shameful.
The former Conservative prime minister suggested Mr Johnson’s government was “politically corrupt” over its treatment of the House of Commons and was 'non-conservative'.
Speaking to BBC Radio 4’s Today, he said: “I have been a Conservative all my life. And if I am concerned at how the government is behaving, I suspect lots of other people are as well.
'It seems to me, as a lifelong Conservative, that much of what they are doing is un-Conservative in its behaviour'.
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer too accused the Prime Minister of being 'corrupt and contemptible', suggesting he had trashed the democratic process in the UK.
Speaking on BBC One’s Andrew Marr Show, he said: “Instead of upholding standards, [the prime minister] ordered his MPs to protect his mate and rip up the whole system.
'That’s corrupt and it’s contemptible and it’s not a one-off'.

for me starmer is every bit as bad as boris they all p1$$ in the same pot

oldstrain wrote:

for me starmer is every bit as bad as boris they all p1$$ in the same pot

Will second that

Heard the saying, OF THE PEOPLE BY THE  PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE.

Long gone.

You choose between stooges put up by those in positions to manipulate along with those who buy their way into the highest positions.

Then you do what you are told.
None of the Woke idiots would get their way if their ideas were put to the majority.

Our police force is corrupt, our politics a shambles, our legal system costs millions in groundless appeals and trials a farce.

Criminals better off in prison than outside having to earn a living.

Our National Health Service would be the best in the world if less money was spent on none medical administrators and you got back to matrons etc;     

ETC; ETC;  ETC;

Apart from that everything is fine.

Regards.

Starmer... even Obstained from Voting in regards the Owen Paterson scandal!

if yer an mp that should be your only income ,ok some expenses granted with receipts etc...for traveling but nothing else,i thought that was the idea of being an mp because you wanted to make a difference for the betterment of the people/country

oldstrain wrote:

if yer an mp that should be your only income ,ok some expenses granted with receipts etc...for traveling but nothing else,i thought that was the idea of being an mp because you wanted to make a difference for the betterment of the people/country

fairy land stuff that type of thinking etc O/S I suggest. First book they all read when elected is, 101 ways to rort the system for your own personal benefit, at the poor old taxpayers expense as such. .