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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:07 am | |
| [quote="George & Morgan"]rpra first hotspot 70mls 673 birds[/quote
Hope they have a good race George would be nice for a change.
If up at 11am maybe see first ones back before going out for lunch.
Think about 12.30pm.
Regards.. |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:10 am | |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:17 am | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- may be wishful thinking
One can only hope George things are out of our hands, have good feeling about this one, lets wait and see. Regards. |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:09 pm | |
| 521 home from 637 started with 1170 birds |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:33 pm | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- may be wishful thinking
you were spot on misty 12-40 |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:17 pm | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- George & Morgan wrote:
- may be wishful thinking
you were spot on misty 12-40 553 back George think best result for a long time and maybe more will turn up. Pleased for the fanciers involved. Seen far worse club and fed results. Regards. |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 1:15 pm | |
| chap wrote Cotswold olr must be the only olr 1st-2nd and 3rd in first hotspot to lose these 3 birds in 2nd hotspot |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:34 pm | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- 521 home from 637 started with 1170 birds
cant grumble at that credit where due thats good returns |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:41 pm | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- chap wrote Cotswold olr must be the only olr 1st-2nd and 3rd in first hotspot to lose these 3 birds in 2nd hotspot
Less and less makes any sense in todays races George. Not only OLs having deplorable returns but most clubs etc; and not all duffers. Something sadly wrong. Regards. |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:16 pm | |
| misty these 3 birds were a hour in front of the 4th bird which were let go in a thunder storm the winner was last in the trainer before the race it was clear these 3 birds never went to the race but were let out when the birds were due but the storm showed them up as in 2nd race there were lost Premier talks about a great race 71 birds back he started with 400 |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:58 pm | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- misty these 3 birds were a hour in front of the 4th bird which were let go in a thunder storm the winner was last in the trainer before the race it was clear these 3 birds never went to the race but were let out when the birds were due but the storm showed them up as in 2nd race there were lost
Premier talks about a great race 71 birds back he started with 400 Always thought too many imponderables in a OL race to be sure everything is above board, some could end up in stock lofts never seeing race panier, as George says could say pigeon went to the race when never left the loft. Too many possible irregularities involved. I know, I know, pigeon fanciers would never do that ???????. History says otherwise. Regards. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:13 pm | |
| nows a good time to find a fancier who will race yer ybs george or put them in breeder buyers maybe... |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:45 pm | |
| it won't be local fed Darren too late now to tell about buyer breeders |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:06 pm | |
| i meant for next season george |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 4:04 am | |
| just been looking at the 11 ybs i bred 10 went down one still at the loft taking 2nd club what i have noticed this one bird that's left i bred the sire and dam the other 10 the sire or the dam i knew nothing of will now split the birds will only breed of birds i bred or sure i know what i'm breeding from |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:50 am | |
| best way i think george, i need to get rid of some pigeons and concentrate on breeding off known good breeders, and breeding less birds ...... |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:00 am | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- just been looking at the 11 ybs i bred 10 went down one still at the loft taking 2nd club what i have noticed this one bird that's left i bred the sire and dam the other 10 the sire or the dam i knew nothing of will now split the birds will only breed of birds i bred or sure i know what i'm breeding from
10 going down George makes no sense. Take 11 average pigeons however bred 10 should not go down from the short distances. How many of the fanciers own pigeons have gone down ?. Could be the fancier and not the pigeons As I have said George, you need a proper agenda to work to. Decide how many young ones you want to breed and how you intend utilising them. Then look at the pigeons you have and get rid of any that you have had and not proven reliable. If you have 6 pairs they are capable of providing enough youngsters for your needs, swapping and changing is not a good idea. Regards. |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:16 am | |
| 2 old bird races he was wiped out yb races missed first 2 3rd race sent 16 5 home hours late finished for the season after one race |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:46 am | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- 2 old bird races he was wiped out yb races missed first 2 3rd race sent 16 5 home hours late finished for the season after one race
Your pigeons apparently never had a fair chance as far as I can see. Not fair on you nor the pigeons George. Think if you want to test your pigeons they have to have a fair chance and it looks like yours did not. Think you have to have some exact feedback to know what is what and pick a source to test the pigeons where they get a fair crack of the whip. You are in a difficult position George pity the OLs are a mess they would have been ideal. Still think silent partner the best option, then all youngsters etc; are tested in the same manner and you get direct feedback. No easy acceptable solution George. Regards. |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 10:55 am | |
| Chris Sutton has put up a post on facebook about helping each other over the problem with strays i told him he should apologize for the 500 strays made by the rpra olr 300 by Premier and 300 by Cotswold olr or do theses strays just disappear into thin air think i will be banned now |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:20 am | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- Chris Sutton has put up a post on facebook about helping each other over the problem with strays i told him he should apologize for the 500 strays made by the rpra olr 300 by Premier and 300 by Cotswold olr or do theses strays just disappear into thin air think i will be banned now
It is a mystery where all these pigeons end up George. More of a mystery, what happens when pigeons are reported from the RPRA OL or the other ones. Afraid there has never been a clear policy, which should have been part of the rules regarding strays in OL events. The trouble is George we have no real idea just what happens to the strays becoming strays, do they join the townies ? are they killed by raptors, are they put in fanciers stock lofts etc; etc; Are they ever sent to a race, are they culled through illness. Numerous possibilities George with no reasonable answers. Be stupid to ban you for asking a reasonable question George but then we care talking RPRA. Regards. |
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George & Morgan Oldbird
Posts : 8077 Join date : 2011-02-14 Age : 78 Location : west Oxfordshire
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 5:13 pm | |
| another hard olr this time Welsh 51 birds from 161 semi final 120mls |
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MISTY Oldbird
Posts : 9024 Join date : 2018-01-28 Age : 89 Location : SCARBOROUGH
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 8:03 pm | |
| - George & Morgan wrote:
- another hard olr this time Welsh 51 birds from 161 semi final 120mls
Strange George, if it was just the odd one or two OLs that were losing the majority of their pigeons you could understand it but it appears all are having the same problems from distances the majority should fly in a reasonable time. Think something is basically wrong. Think when the idea was muted the intention was to find the best performance pigeons and not to see how few you end up with. Bet the vast majority expected all their entries would be in the final not lost from5 miles onwards. STRANGE. Regards. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43286 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: 2023 RPRA Entries Thu Aug 17, 2023 9:15 pm | |
| are clubs and feds having these sort of losses ...? |
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