wing butts

hi there, just seeing if anyone has any views on the wing butt theory. i have a friend who swears by it and as i am very new to this sport i have now idea.

as long as they have two thats all i care about

dont think this theory has any grounds for thinking it means anything, all birds are different ........

thanks lads for the feedback.

The baskets the only theory for me.

is the theory that some butts stick out .....?

DAVID wrote:

is the theory that some butts stick out .....?

my wifes dose

so whats the wing butt theory then

Rene A wrote:

DAVID wrote:

is the theory that some butts stick out .....?

my wifes dose

P.M.S.L.

the theory is as follows. hold the pigeon so that it looking towards you, then when it is totaly relaxed and calm with your right thumb place it on the knuckle on top of wing. then when the right side of your thumb is flush with the outside of wing, when its flush if the knuckle is right of center of the middle of your thumb then it is sprint, and left of center then distance. apparantley outer left or off the thumb is exteme distance. but like i said this is a theory that ive been told its not mine and just wanted to get some input. thanks guys.

ive never herd this before has anyone tryed it since reading this post ???

jarra_lad wrote:

ive never herd this before has anyone tryed it since reading this post ???

what is it tho jarra.............

not sure if we are talking about the same part of the wing with the bird in your hand and the wings closed run your thumb over the just were the wing joins the body if the bone is flat you have a long distance bird the more the bone sticks up it is a short distance bird i would go for this theory above all others for the long distance bird

beets me lol

ive herd if they have short legs there channel birds aswell lol

i think you might find i'm right

have you tryed it rainbow

whats this tail quill theory, supposed to be short distance if it points one way and long if it points the other way....or something like that

suppose a fancier had a couple of pigeons which won thats tail pointed to the left, and decided it was a point to watch for maybe ?

if you have any 500ml birds in your loft then put it to the test or any one else on site

when you talk about theories the fanciers who use them don't just go on that one theory they select the pairs which they think are best suited when they have done this if the tail was not right all they would do is move the pairs around it is the same with eye, wing , colour,large or small we all seem to condemm the most successful fanciers even when they try to help i also don't beleive that you all don't have your own

hi george, when you think of all the theories fanciers have it just makes you wonder if any of them have any substance, are they just theories or do they actually have any evidence to support their findings...........

i think with all theories we never actually get to hear what basis they form the theories on, and what proof/evidence they have for making these claims........

it adds interest to the hoby of pigeon racing tho, because if it wasnt for our theories and these were facts it wouldnt be as interesting or exciting would it.........

David all i done was reply to what theoriers i had a little knowledge of eye sign i just could not understand it the tail was from a dvd when i tried inbreeding i thouught the birds were short i have handled a lot of distance birds here and NI and they all were flat just were the wing joins the body it's difficult to explain without the bird in the hand. some go on the theory winner to winner but Ian was right when he said best to best unless the club had 6-7 members then you may be able to put winner to winner if they won at the same distance and type some say they go by the basket i have been in lofts were they select YB and put them straight into the stock loft in order to keep the blood line so theory is something that works best for the fancier

your right george, i think sometimes theory is all we have to go on...........at the end of the day its all enjoyement of our hoby and while we have theories and ideas to follow it keeps our interest of pigeon keeping alive.............

we manage our birds in the way we think best/right.

I've heard if their droppings are two different colours, there's gold in there hills.
PIGEON POO Theory

Sorry GARY so that was expert advice you were giving last week

winner to winner nothing else just pair winner to winner so do you think 20 winners 10 pairs would be about right in a loft

one cock to four hens=28 young birds when i read this i knew right away you were a expert in fact someone had to come on site and explain it for you

go to the best and buy the best this takes time and money is that what you said well at 67 next year and no money as that advice was not for me it must have been for all the rich young kids comming into the sport so with you it's all advice and no theoriers yes or no