Pigeon fanciers lung...

can our members give their opinions on how someone with PFL can continue to keep/race their birds....ie face mask, loft coat etc

what precautions or advise could you give someone.......?

The best thing for me to say is to keep you loft very well ventilated which will prevent any plumage from hanging in the air within the loft

Take a look at the pigeon scribe Keith Mott he has PFL and if you need advice send him an email

thanks for your advise don, just trying to gather information from our members which might help fanciers with PFL keep going with their pigeons.....

any more tips/info.....?

No more sorry but keith is the one to place a few more idears your way mate

make sure you change your cloths every time you go in the loft , keep them in a avairy loft with a solid roof
so the dust go straight out you can stop the rain from going in by having a big over hang

i had a mate who got that david he got one of them breathing helmet things
it did help when in the loft but he was told only to spend short times in the loft ie 30 mins them come out for a while and that helped him carry on but you could tell when he didnt wear it he used to go dizy he never knew he had it till he took a test at blackpool
maybe we should all wear a paper mask at least

just been speaking to my brother on the phone, hes had it for 25 years and wears masks etc......he told me to start wearing one as he said im always clearing my throat ..........

well as your blood related david i think you be wise to wear one

im wondering if its a bit like that asbestose thing where by it grows in the lungs

funny ive just remebered something i heard a guy at our club a few weeks ago

he wasnt a pigeon man but said to me how come none of you lot wear mask i said i never give it a thouht mate he said well i studdy and sell masks for all sorts he told me that its only just not long come to lite that cement or plaster cant remember dose the same thing

theres something in it that grows in the lungs

sounds familiar that graham seem to remember hearing something similar many years ago when i was an apprentice.........

i think one of the symptums are tiredness as well as feeling as tho you have the flu type of symptums....altho as you have said, some dohnt even know they have got it........strange eh.

funny you say that david the reason he had the test at blackpool was because he always felt tired after going in to the loft

ide just like to point out he was a fit guy dosnt drink and never smoked

to be honest im tired all the time and feel drained even when i get up on a morning im knackered.............ive never drank or smoked either.

i suppose i could have a slight touch of it but unless it really bothers me i`ll plod on as normal.....altho i will start to wear a mask when cleaning out.

here read this

http://www.pigeon-lung.co.uk/articlefiles/art_tonygrinsill.html

very interesting reading graham, altho im tired i dont have flu-like symptums........plus i dont actually spend too much time sat in the loft with the birds, so i should be ok and will wear a mask when scraping out in future as it does sometimes get a bit dusty anyway.

the helmet was designed for dry liners as the fine dust contains quartz and is very harmful made by gypsum who makes plaster and plasterboard and cement

thats the ones darren gypsom is right next door to me
ill ask that young lad if i see him again what he was trying to say about whats in plater and cement

birdy2011 wrote:

thats the ones darren gypsom is right next door to me
ill ask that young lad if i see him again what he was trying to say about whats in plater and cement

yes would be good to know as i worked with the stuff for long enough ,im sure they dont tell us the half of it

well what im doing to my new loft is adding in 2 extractor fans into it due to i dont get alot of air flow in my garden but ill also wear a mask

also ill be adding in to air purfiers

I remember reading a good article written by Keith Mott and his rabbit hutch lofts, if I remember basically his set up was a lot of rabbit hutch style nest boxes where each pair lived in the box, he didnt enter the box due to the size meaning he was never going to be affected again by the dust, suppose after reading that it gave me an idea to build my small loft (my avatar pic) whereby my whole front opens up and I cant enter due to size but gives me peace of mind.

Paul wrote:

I remember reading a good article written by Keith Mott and his rabbit hutch lofts, if I remember basically his set up was a lot of rabbit hutch style nest boxes where each pair lived in the box, he didnt enter the box due to the size meaning he was never going to be affected again by the dust, suppose after reading that it gave me an idea to build my small loft (my avatar pic) whereby my whole front opens up and I cant enter due to size but gives me peace of mind.

That is spot on about Keith's rabbit style lofts but he has changed his loft now if you look in the homing world because his level of lung capasity has got better