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dublin40 Chipping
Posts : 40 Join date : 2011-06-08
| Subject: jansens pure whites????????????? Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:27 pm | |
| i was told today by a guy 30 years in pigeons he never heard of pure white jansens .as i taught i had 2 pure whites now not sure is he right??????????? |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:02 pm | |
| think some of the roland janssens are white..............maybe wrong tho |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:08 pm | |
| yes your rite david some of the roland janssens are white or white grizzle never heard of the janssen bros having whites though |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:19 pm | |
| i was told by mark brown that the roland janssens are a totally different bloodline/breed to the janssen bros, acording to mark the name janssen in belgium is as popular as smith in the uk, so a lot of fanciers are wrongly assuming that all the various types of janssens are from the famous janssen brothers, which they are not. |
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spencerline Hatchling
Posts : 316 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 61 Location : Algarve Portugal
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:10 pm | |
| Hi David, yes the Roland Janssens are of an entirely different origin to the Janssen bros of Arendonk. There are a lot of colours in the strain so for example I have paired a White grizzle RJ hen to almost white RJ cockbird he has a little red grizzel colour too. from this pairing I have bred Mealys, Grizzles (white, and red) , Blue pieds, and white pigeons with black wing tips. Never a pure white always at least a small black or red spot or spots on them but beautifully muscled and aggressive birds. I will let you know how they race here in the Algarve in March as our season begins later this year. Kev This article may shed some light on white janssen bros birds http://thenational.us/cms/node/13 |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:31 pm | |
| hi kev, thanks for the info....found it interesting rerading. will also be interested in hearing how you do when your racing starts, will it be the old birds forst like us ? |
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spencerline Hatchling
Posts : 316 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 61 Location : Algarve Portugal
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:57 pm | |
| Hi David there is no YB racing here so yes iit will be Obs but there are special yearling only races too. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Sat Aug 27, 2011 2:01 pm | |
| ah right, didnt know there was no yb racing over there.........so what do you do with the ybs ? just train them for when they are yearlings etc ?
also how many oldbird races will you have ? |
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dublin40 Chipping
Posts : 40 Join date : 2011-06-08
| Subject: jansens Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:17 pm | |
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spencerline Hatchling
Posts : 316 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 61 Location : Algarve Portugal
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:59 pm | |
| Hi David, last season was my 1st in the Algarve so it was all new to me but the season began in January and finished in early July. The birds race every week starting at 170 miles(the shortest race in our Fed) We end up at Barcelona and Dax (we had the good fortune to win) at 1000 KM or 620 miles. the races are velocidade, Meo fundo, Fundo and Grande Fundo, sprint, middle, long distance and super long distance.
They have 2 or even 3 races on the same day at different distances so plenty of races that is why the Portuguese have large teams of birds as there are so many races. 200 or more birds is normal here.
Yearlings can race with the older birds but also they have Yearling Classics where only yearlings are competing, They dont have YB racing in the Algarve but a lot of latebreds that are still ybs really race in the yearling races. In other words any bird rung with a 2011 ring cannot race untill 2012.
This year it is different as races begin in March 2012 due to the shooting season here where tourists that come to Portugal to shoot have pop at everything that moves and a lot of birds were wounded or killed last year.
Oh I forgot to say the young birds are trained up ready to race as the first race is 170 miles, the club supply cheap training for any members that want to send starting at 40 miles to around 140 miles.
Last season I used the club training and trained our own (I singled every yb up at 50 miles, but this time i am only going to train our own ybs as I want to see if I can train them to come through a valley between the mountains so I dont want them learning bad habits from other training places. Time will tell if it can be done but I have to try as it is logical to try to save 10 mins or more if one will take a shortcut from the rest of the Fed, lol Kev.
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:34 pm | |
| allways interesting how things are done in other countries thanks for doing the write up atb for future racing in portugal kev |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:19 pm | |
| Nice bit of info Kev, hope all is well mate long time no speak |
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spencerline Hatchling
Posts : 316 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 61 Location : Algarve Portugal
| Subject: Re: jansens pure whites????????????? Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:17 am | |
| Hi Don, great to hear from you and thanks, Im in the UK flying in around 4 hours so wont be online till 18th Sep. My mate didnt know the answer to the hession question but Im in Blackpool a few days and I will ask around, lol |
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