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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:28 am | |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:17 am | |
| We need to shout this from the rooftops, let the world know what we are up against. I'm surprised that some of the big studs and companies I have emailed have not even took the time to reply to my email. Well stuff em. I am now thinking of making a list on the website to shame them all. Yes they should be ashamed, they take from the fancy on a daily basis and when asked to give something back to the very sport that has lined their pockets for years, they just don't want to know. Stuff em, I'm going to try and enlist some of the better known European fanciers to support us. It's a shame our own boys wont commit.
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birdy2011 Oldbird
Posts : 5539 Join date : 2011-01-01 Age : 63
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:41 pm | |
| before you came on here gary ian set a fire fund up for the lads whos lofts got burnt down i emailed 23 people top studs and many pigeon shops not 1 reply so it amazes me funny though as david says we all help charities |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:51 pm | |
| Got it in one G, this I think will be a turning point in the sport as a whole. Us fanciers, need to take time and re evaluate the fancy as a whole and strengthen the links between individual fanciers, so we may work together and maybe put some of the fat cats of the fancy on a diet. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:02 pm | |
| great news getting pipa onboard gary lets hope it has an impact as for the ones that dont want to support us fanciers please name and shame then we can stay away from having any dealings or letting any of our money go to them via buisness transactions |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:35 pm | |
| put a list up of those who have ignored your request for help etc........... |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:39 pm | |
| That's the one mate. But I will try not to be hasty and give em a little time to respond. But that is a route I am going to take once I have finished doing this email campaign. |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:42 pm | |
| This the email that I have sent to them all. Hi, Pigeon fancier here, just in case you think it’s one of those dodgy begging letters that find the way into everyone’s email accounts. My name is Gary Burgess a pigeon fancier of many years. I would just like to bring to your attention a campaign that we fanciers have now put together in a bid to save the fancy from dying. This action is to get the fanciers in the UK and protest about the current issues surrounding the very serious problem that is affecting every fancier here in the UK. That problem is the increasing numbers of birds of prey, which are now relentlessly attacking our birds on a daily basis. We want this problem to be brought to the attention of the British Government and DEFRA as the RSPB just don’t want to know and are accusing us of over exaggerating the whole issue. Your help, would help give to credibility to the whole campaign and would in fact, protect all our interests for years to come. Your help in this very serious matter would be greatly appreciated. Kind Regards Gary Burgess On behalf of the British Pigeon Fanciers http://saveourracingpigeons.yolasite.com/ http://www.change.org/petitions/save-our-racing-pigeons-debate-the-overpopulation-of-predatory-hawks-inhabiting-urban-areas |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:50 pm | |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:00 pm | |
| very interesting gary, what idiot wrtote this...?
Conclusions • Sparrowhawk impacts on racing pigeons are extremely low when compared to other factors such as straying, bad weather, domestic cats and collisions (see overleaf). • There is no scientific justification for suggesting that the killing or removal of sparrowhawks is an appropriate, proportionate response to this iss
also it says sparrowhawks take less than 1% or pigeons liberated for racing, i think this is total crap. what about exercising round the loft too....? |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| It's all strings to our bow as they say |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:13 pm | |
| what idiot does these surveys..........? |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:34 pm | |
| Exactly, this is why we need everybody to report attacks, even if the birds manage to get away, this way we can get a clear overall picture based on fact. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:42 pm | |
| have you seen the map of reported attacks on the rpra website gary...? |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:50 pm | |
| I have a link to it from my website, in fact there's a new attack just come up. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:04 pm | |
| shame you cant contact the fanciers who made each report gary, a few of us could all email them if details/emails were available. |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:28 pm | |
| I can get their names and locations. But that's it. A few have signed the petition. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:32 pm | |
| i see people from poland and the usa have signed gary. word is spreading eh....... |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:50 pm | |
| all over the US, Australia, one of the guys from PIPA, Russell Birdman Hayes, Jim Savage, Ian Axe, just to name a few. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:53 pm | |
| yes i noticed ian axe had signed, only thing is tho he signed ian and nigel as one, should have signed seperately......... |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:04 pm | |
| I'm just grateful they signed, an I can knock them off my shamed list. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43266 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:14 pm | |
| I know you wasn't mate and can see where your coming from. Yep theres a good few on there now and it does at least add some credibility to the petition. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:31 pm | |
| - Gaz b wrote:
- all over the US, Australia, one of the guys from PIPA, Russell Birdman Hayes, Jim Savage, Ian Axe, just to name a few.
Gary it was me who forwarded the message on facebook to Jim mate |
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Gaz b Oldbird
Posts : 6221 Join date : 2011-10-06 Age : 60 Location : Coming to a club near you
| Subject: Re: PIPA Responded Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:49 pm | |
| Cheers Don, they are started to come now mate. Tomorrow our article will be on PIPPA and then it's all systems go. |
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