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cowandchicken Hatchling
Posts : 255 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Advice please Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:50 pm | |
| Got my ybs vacinated this morning and this afternoon 2 cocks crops have blown up like balloons. I also had a cock come a fortnight late from france a few weeks ago and the next day he had the same thing. I,ve not changed feed or water routine and the others are ok. Another club member had the same thing with a old bird a few months ago too. Anybody got any idears on what it is? |
| | | joe wheelo Hatchling
Posts : 236 Join date : 2012-05-30 Age : 46 Location : Ashbourne co meath
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:48 pm | |
| Hi cow and chicken I looked it up and found this
Hi cow and chicken I looked it up and fôund this mate
PLEASE DO NOT "POP" ANYTHING.
This is not a 'ruptured Air Sac'.
It is Canker, and, either a Yeast or Candida condition in the Crop...either of which can cause a blocked or non-passing or slowly passing Crop...and, when both are present, even more so.
Bread was a really bad idea, please never do that again for any Species of Bird.
Your youngster needs medicines for treating Canker, and, for treating Yeasts/Candida -
The latter illnesss/condition will be making Gas in the Crop which inflate the Crop.
How much old 'bread' is still in the Crop? Can you tell? By feeling?
Metronidazole for Canker
Medistatin for Yeast/Candida infection.
Supply supplimental Warmth.
Get those two Meds, and check back with us.
Any Pigeon supply will have them, or, any Avian Vet would have them.
Your Youngster needs these "now", no delays.
No more "bread' no food of any sort now untill his Crop is passing and has passed whatever is still in it.
Tepid 'ACV-Water' would be good, for his supervised drinking, so long as it is not allowed to accumulate into a non passing Crop.
ACV-Water is three Tablespoons of raw, unfiltered, Organic, Apple Cider Vinegar, to a Gallon of Water.
Appropriate Liquid Foods, would be permissible if his Crop will pass LIquids.
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| | | cowandchicken Hatchling
Posts : 255 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:07 am | |
| Thanks for the reply. I treated them for canker a couple of weeks before but will give them another course to see if it helps. |
| | | edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:19 am | |
| rule 1 never vaccinate after a feed, get somone that knows how to do the job properly, sounds to me like you have punctured the air sacs,no need for any meds at all, only rest the ones affected,they will rectify themselfs. hope this helps |
| | | cowandchicken Hatchling
Posts : 255 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:33 am | |
| Thanks Edgie |
| | | kev d Youngbird
Posts : 1123 Join date : 2009-12-28 Age : 58 Location : wellington
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:04 pm | |
| how do you puncture the air sac when you jab them in the back of the neck or am i missing some thing here . |
| | | EssexSteve Youngbird
Posts : 1196 Join date : 2012-04-22 Age : 65 Location : Essex
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:27 pm | |
| I agree id go with canker then candida |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43166 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:02 pm | |
| thing is, is the blown crop anything to do with being vaccinated, or is it purely a coincedence ? are the ybs crops blowing up anything to do with the reason why the old birds crop blew up, ?
is there anything you can think of jason that you havnt mentioned/remembered thats happened, ie out pecking in garden or any recent illness etc ? |
| | | spencerline Hatchling
Posts : 316 Join date : 2011-01-12 Age : 61 Location : Algarve Portugal
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:10 pm | |
| I would go with the Candida-Canker cure also. I would think it is impossible to rupture pigeons airsacs by Vaccinating them and this is just coincidence that it has shown up now.
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| | | edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:37 pm | |
| - edgie wrote:
- rule 1 never vaccinate after a feed, get somone that knows how to do the job properly, sounds to me like you have punctured the air sacs,no need for any meds at all, only rest the ones affected,they will rectify themselfs. hope this helps
dead easy to rupture airsacs, just stick the needle in too far, and if the birds have already been fed the crop will be streched and more prone to being a problem, as for meds save yer brass, just take note of my advise for the future and rest the birds that have the problem, that cost nowt, had pigeons a long time seen this problem many times. |
| | | cowandchicken Hatchling
Posts : 255 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: Advice please Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:48 pm | |
| Thanks for the advice guys i will rest them up and see how it goes. many thanks. |
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