Poultry Drink...?

Ginger wrote:

I think some body is trying to wind you up mate if they dont want to no about the same stuff let them pay the big prices a lot of my stuff hasnt got a pigeon on it works for me

so everybody is getting ripped off apart from you!! go for the horse meds and save a fortune just make sure you have a large bucket and spade for the follow up

northroadracer wrote:

Ginger wrote:

I think some body is trying to wind you up mate if they dont want to no about the same stuff let them pay the big prices a lot of my stuff hasnt got a pigeon on it works for me

so everybody is getting ripped off apart from you!! go for the horse meds and save a fortune just make sure you have a large bucket and spade for the follow up

NRR   please take a step back for a moment    "We don't tend to rip people off/apart here" we attempt to offer sound/good advise which has some logic behind it, as they say. (Spade & Bucket situation) "Rubbish" for what I have experienced etc. Thou !!!!! 3/4 pigeons    may tend to agree with your thought's, but remember thou, that's over 50 odd years   so maybe I'm guilty as you say. Knowlegde gained from even the worst of cases, does tend to make one wiser & only a fool makes the same mistake twice, at least in my view.  
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Knackered wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

Ginger wrote:

I think some body is trying to wind you up mate if they dont want to no about the same stuff let them pay the big prices a lot of my stuff hasnt got a pigeon on it works for me

so everybody is getting ripped off apart from you!! go for the horse meds and save a fortune just make sure you have a large bucket and spade for the follow up

NRR   please take a step back for a moment    "We don't tend to rip people off/apart here" we attempt to offer sound/good advise which has some logic behind it, as they say. (Spade & Bucket situation) "Rubbish" for what I have experienced etc. Thou !!!!! 3/4 pigeons    may tend to agree with your thought's, but remember thou, that's over 50 odd years   so maybe I'm guilty as you say. Knowlegde gained from even the worst of cases, does tend to make one wiser & only a fool makes the same mistake twice, at least in my view.  
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sorry but advocating horse meds for racing pigeons in my opinion does not constitute sound advice, if there was evidence based on consistent performances by the people making the claims and not hearsay then maybe i would think otherwise but i cant see it

Northroadracer no body is saying like Kev said the birds will fly faster we are talking my of cures all we/I am saying one can get the birds just as fit/cure with cheaper prices for the same stuff I am not meaning just horse stuff but when you have the same incredients in it why pay the big price we/I are not trying to put people off or out to stop them winning we are trying to help, if you want to pay the top price pay it by all meanes thats up to you

Ginger wrote:

Northroadracer no body is saying like Kev said the birds will fly faster we are talking my of cures all we/I am saying one can get the birds just as fit/cure with cheaper prices for the same stuff I am not meaning just horse stuff but when you have the same incredients in it why pay the big price we/I are not trying to put people off or out to stop them winning we are trying to help, if you want to pay the top price pay it by all meanes thats up to you

some things  that cost the dearest arnt the best  and  if u have an open mind  never disguard  nothing as ginger says all roads lead to Rome    sean

seanl wrote:

Ginger wrote:

Northroadracer no body is saying like Kev said the birds will fly faster we are talking my of cures all we/I am saying one can get the birds just as fit/cure with cheaper prices for the same stuff I am not meaning just horse stuff but when you have the same incredients in it why pay the big price we/I are not trying to put people off or out to stop them winning we are trying to help, if you want to pay the top price pay it by all meanes thats up to you

some things  that cost the dearest arnt the best  and  if u have an open mind  never disguard  nothing as ginger says all roads lead to Rome    sean

money is not the issue with me so i will continue to stick to tried and tested even if it cost a few pence more

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to tell us what you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

you didnt answer the question which have you found bennifit the birds or are you still testing them at great cost

here are 2 i use and i bet a good few more do

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-Label-Liquid-Iron-x-1-Lt-/131000965629?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e804419fd

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/horse-supplies-horse-nutritional-supplements-c-540_257/red-cell-equine-supplement-3-78l-p-783

stick a pigeon on it will cost 3 times as much for a lot less

but each to there own

birdy2011 wrote:

you didnt answer the question which have you found bennifit the birds or are you still testing them at great cost

here are 2 i use and i bet a good few more do

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gold-Label-Liquid-Iron-x-1-Lt-/131000965629?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e804419fd

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/horse-supplies-horse-nutritional-supplements-c-540_257/red-cell-equine-supplement-3-78l-p-783

stick a pigeon on it will cost 3 times as much for a lot less

but each to there own

a man who knows the right quality stuff to use and no pigeon on the front mind just boggles   sean

northroadracer wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known  brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons
and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

could you give site members the benefit of your knowledge with products you have found to be of use ....thanks

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known  brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons
and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

could you give site members the benefit of your knowledge with products you have found to be of use ....thanks

found most gem supplement products to be first class, medication wise seldom go past harkers.
not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known  brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons
and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

could you give site members the benefit of your knowledge with products you have found to be of use ....thanks

found most gem supplement products to be first class, medication wise seldom go past harkers.
not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa gave the animals on the ark out of date crap somes it up hmm gems products for meds lol sean

northroadracer wrote:

seanl wrote:

Ginger wrote:

Northroadracer no body is saying like Kev said the birds will fly faster we are talking my of cures all we/I am saying one can get the birds just as fit/cure with cheaper prices for the same stuff I am not meaning just horse stuff but when you have the same incredients in it why pay the big price we/I are not trying to put people off or out to stop them winning we are trying to help, if you want to pay the top price pay it by all meanes thats up to you

some things  that cost the dearest arnt the best  and  if u have an open mind  never disguard  nothing as ginger says all roads lead to Rome    sean

money is not the issue with me so i will continue to stick to tried and tested even if it cost a few pence more

No one here has any concerns if that is your choice NNR (Money issue) But !!!!!!!    some of us are not so fortunate etc, we count the pennies   just to put food on the table so to speak. Walk down any aisle in a supermarket & at eye level (for womem) you will find those items with the fancy labels & the dearest of prices etc (spin & blin)    Now !!!!!!!!!! if one looks down on the bottom rows while there (Cheap & nasty section) No name brands   you will find where I do most of my shopping these days. Same product in most cases, but no fancy label etc & half the price & made by the same manufacture.  So !!!!!!! you enjoy spending your money    your way etc NNR & I will do my thing  . As strange as it may appear thou to some, we may all finish up at the same place with the same results so to speak, in the end.

Knackered wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

seanl wrote:

Ginger wrote:

Northroadracer no body is saying like Kev said the birds will fly faster we are talking my of cures all we/I am saying one can get the birds just as fit/cure with cheaper prices for the same stuff I am not meaning just horse stuff but when you have the same incredients in it why pay the big price we/I are not trying to put people off or out to stop them winning we are trying to help, if you want to pay the top price pay it by all meanes thats up to you

some things  that cost the dearest arnt the best  and  if u have an open mind  never disguard  nothing as ginger says all roads lead to Rome    sean

money is not the issue with me so i will continue to stick to tried and tested even if it cost a few pence more

No one here has any concerns if that is your choice NNR (Money issue) But !!!!!!!    some of us are not so fortunate etc, we count the pennies   just to put food on the table so to speak. Walk down any aisle in a supermarket & at eye level (for womem) you will find those items with the fancy labels & the dearest of prices etc (spin & blin)    Now !!!!!!!!!! if one looks down on the bottom rows while there (Cheap & nasty section) No name brands   you will find where I do most of my shopping these days. Same product in most cases, but no fancy label etc & half the price & made by the same manufacture.  So !!!!!!! you enjoy spending your money    your way etc NNR & I will do my thing  . As strange as it may appear thou to some, we may all finish up at the same place with the same results so to speak, in the end.

certainly appreciate that for some price is an issue fortunately for me it is not.pigeon racing is my hobby and the money i have spent on it over the last 40 years is more than necessary but it is what i love, i buy birds every year some good most not but it is my money and i dont do the buying birds at good prices and then scrimping on food (v-laga) and meds thing atb

seanl wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known  brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons
and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

could you give site members the benefit of your knowledge with products you have found to be of use ....thanks

found most gem supplement products to be first class, medication wise seldom go past harkers.
not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean  

it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: 

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known  brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons
and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

could you give site members the benefit of your knowledge with products you have found to be of use ....thanks

found most gem supplement products to be first class, medication wise seldom go past harkers.
not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

the spartrix tablets are good and also the new cocci tabs are good but the rest of harkers I don't rate tbh....gem supplements are herbal remedies  ie strike and trikanox...some of their products I use myself also gem the pax and impact and feel that while some pigeon products are very good others are a rip off and can be acquired from the local supermarket at over half the price...keep an open mind not a open pocket  atb

northroadracer wrote:

seanl wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known  brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons
and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

could you give site members the benefit of your knowledge with products you have found to be of use ....thanks

found most gem supplement products to be first class, medication wise seldom go past harkers.
not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean  

it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: 

not an expert but no mug wont get ripped off  yip yer might be able to spell pity about the common sense  all the best cheers sean

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

birdy2011 wrote:

you dont seem to like horse products north road racer perhaps you may like to  tell us what  you use that you have found that works thats been tried and tested made by so called pigeon experts cus ive sure not found any

tried most well known  brands that have been tried and tested on racing pigeons
and give dosages that are measured for birds and not donkeys:lol!:  

could you give site members the benefit of your knowledge with products you have found to be of use ....thanks

found most gem supplement products to be first class, medication wise seldom go past harkers.
not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

the spartrix tablets are good and also the new cocci tabs are good but the rest of harkers I don't rate tbh....gem supplements are herbal remedies  ie strike and trikanox...some of their products I use myself also gem the pax and impact and feel that while some pigeon products are very good others are a rip off and can be acquired from the local supermarket at over half the price...keep an open mind not a open pocket  atb

each to their own and atb as well

not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there[/quote]harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean   [/quote]it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: [/quote]not an expert but no mug wont get ripped off  yip yer might be able to spell pity about the common sense  all the best cheers sean[/quote]


Sean !!!!!!    When another man offers his wisdom/advise ???????  , on a site such as this. In regards to another man's spelling etc or how many races he may have won compared to him type of thing. The picture I have in my mind unfortunately (of that person) is not a pretty one, sadly.  
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Knackered wrote:

not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean   [/quote]it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: [/quote]not an expert but no mug wont get ripped off  yip yer might be able to spell pity about the common sense  all the best cheers sean[/quote]

Sean !!!!!!    When another man offers his wisdom/advise ???????  , on a site such as this. In regards to another man's spelling etc or how many races he may have won compared to him type of thing. The picture I have in my mind unfortunately (of that person) is not a pretty one, sadly.  
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same here !! i assume he must have little man syndrome:lol:   but you obviously know him better than me

northroadracer wrote:

Knackered wrote:

not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean  

it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: [/quote]not an expert but no mug wont get ripped off  yip yer might be able to spell pity about the common sense  all the best cheers sean[/quote] 
Sean !!!!!!    When another man offers his wisdom/advise ???????  , on a site such as this. In regards to another man's spelling etc or how many races he may have won compared to him type of thing. The picture I have in my mind unfortunately (of that person) is not a pretty one, sadly.  
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same here !! i assume he must have little man syndrome:lol:   but you obviously know him better than me[/quote]u must have been droped on your heed at birth  or to put it another way  your brain is like a pea rattling roond  in a big dust bin   and the only thing little is my heed but its  big enough  to sit on my 6ft plus height   i leave it at that  as u have nothing of interest  to say to me or knowledge to pass on  now atb  cheers sean

seanl wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

Knackered wrote:

not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean  

it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: 

not an expert but no mug wont get ripped off  yip yer might be able to spell pity about the common sense  all the best cheers sean[/quote] 
Sean !!!!!!    When another man offers his wisdom/advise ???????  , on a site such as this. In regards to another man's spelling etc or how many races he may have won compared to him type of thing. The picture I have in my mind unfortunately (of that person) is not a pretty one, sadly.  
*****[/quote] 
 
same here !! i assume he must have little man syndrome:lol:   but you obviously know him better than me[/quote]u must have been droped on your heed at birth  or to put it another way  your brain is like a pea rattling roond  in a big dust bin   and the only thing little is my heed but its  big enough  to sit on my 6ft plus height   i leave it at that  as u have nothing of interest  to say to me or knowledge to pass on  now atb  cheers sean[/quote]



MMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmm   I was 6ft once   thou, I'm still 17 stone type of thing unfortunately, even today (could be a help) ?????????? if we all finish up going to war here   somehow, Sean.

Knackered wrote:

seanl wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

Knackered wrote:

not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean  

it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: 

not an expert but no mug wont get ripped off  yip yer might be able to spell pity about the common sense  all the best cheers sean

 
Sean !!!!!!    When another man offers his wisdom/advise ???????  , on a site such as this. In regards to another man's spelling etc or how many races he may have won compared to him type of thing. The picture I have in my mind unfortunately (of that person) is not a pretty one, sadly.  
*****[/quote] 
 
same here !! i assume he must have little man syndrome:lol:   but you obviously know him better than me[/quote]u must have been droped on your heed at birth  or to put it another way  your brain is like a pea rattling roond  in a big dust bin   and the only thing little is my heed but its  big enough  to sit on my 6ft plus height   i leave it at that  as u have nothing of interest  to say to me or knowledge to pass on  now atb  cheers sean[/quote] 
 
 
MMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmm   I was 6ft once   thou, I'm still 17 stone type of thing unfortunately, even today (could be a help) ?????????? if we all finish up going to war here   somehow, Sean. [/quote]
i have no intension of going to war but aint taken no crap off no one  and i still carry my 20 stone    the example of useing other products  was not the price but how good it is used correctly   but this obvously went over some ones heed   cheers sean

seanl wrote:

northroadracer wrote:

Knackered wrote:

not interested in trying to save a few pennies here and there

harkers is that the products that Noa  gave the animals on the ark out of date crap  somes it up    hmm  gems products for meds   lol sean  

it is so good that there is a complete expert on here regarding pigeons  pity about the spelling:cheers: 

not an expert but no mug wont get ripped off  yip yer might be able to spell pity about the common sense  all the best cheers sean[/quote] 
Sean !!!!!!    When another man offers his wisdom/advise ???????  , on a site such as this. In regards to another man's spelling etc or how many races he may have won compared to him type of thing. The picture I have in my mind unfortunately (of that person) is not a pretty one, sadly.  
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same here !! i assume he must have little man syndrome:lol:   but you obviously know him better than me[/quote]u must have been droped on your heed at birth  or to put it another way  your brain is like a pea rattling roond  in a big dust bin   and the only thing little is my heed but its  big enough  to sit on my 6ft plus height   i leave it at that  as u have nothing of interest  to say to me or knowledge to pass on  now atb  cheers sean[/quote]
would never dream of trying to pass on my knowledge to some little man who knows it all already atb