HI DAVID YOUR RIGHT CANT GET ONTO SITE THREW MY EMAIL .BUT BACK ON NOW. we had 38 birds at wake field up at 7/20.our first bird in at 9/12 still piped for first place by bobby clarck. he topped the fed last week looks like he may do it again this week our bird was 2mins behind his. our youngsters have started to drop to bits, his birds have been on the darkness looking magnifacent.we cant seem to touch him but will keep trying lol..cheers terryp..