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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 10:07 am

yes ive seem some at the corn shop, metal they were and I thought the same as you, getting them water tight as you would have to cut the roof felt to fit them......... scratch study
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PostSubject: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 10:12 am

If you cut the felt, to allow chimney through, you can them put felt up to chimney, and make a collar from a piece of felt and seal it with some sealer. Thats how i plan to do mine.
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 10:29 am

right yes, so you've a collar of felt overlapping the cut in the roof felt.........then sealed/glued ?
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PostSubject: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 10:43 am

Yes david, but dont cut a circle in the felt for chimney to come through, score across the felt like pizza slices. then the chimney will pop through, and the felt will run up the chimney, seal it it and then put a collar around the chimney.
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 10:56 am

I just cut mine straight through the felt but its a very tight fit I used a core bit on my drill especially designed for 100 mil pipe openings from my father in law as he is a plumber and sealed around with a gutter sealant ...it was expensive but worth it ...I cut out for the 100mil pipe close to a roof timber and fixed the pipe to that timber on the inside of the loft so theirs no movement in the pipe to brak the seal exposed to the weather and pushed mesh up inside the pipe to stop any vermin coming down into the loft I then used a pronafit smoke bomb to test it ...the sealant I used does not shrink
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PostSubject: Guess the time   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 11:00 am

Good fix that Daz, and it is water tight then. birds will benifit from it.
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 12:50 pm

draw round the pipe from the roof top then cut inside the line 5 mill push your pipes in and secure from the inside with 1.1/2 x 1.1/2 timber frame then some mastic seal from the inside and round the outside then get some flash band and use round the outside about 4 inch up the pipe you will need to warm this so it sticks use a blow torch on a low flame job done
ours never leaked

you can also buy pipe flashing collars on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-roof-flashing-stainless-flue-pipe-systems-ducting-/201336486539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item2ee096fa8b
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 2:21 pm

that's a good price for them flashing covers g... at b&q they are £28
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 10:31 pm

birdy2011 wrote:
draw round the pipe from the roof top then cut inside the line 5 mill push your pipes in and secure from the inside with 1.1/2 x 1.1/2 timber frame then some mastic seal from the inside and round the outside then get some flash band and  use round the outside about 4 inch up the pipe you will need to warm this so it sticks use a blow torch on a low flame job done
ours never leaked

you can also buy pipe flashing collars on ebay

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-roof-flashing-stainless-flue-pipe-systems-ducting-/201336486539?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item2ee096fa8b

Spot on G but another way is to do what Devo said with cutting the felt slide the pipe through so that the felt raps round the pipe then get the flash band and rap it round the the pipe on the outside warm the flash band up for it to stick to the felt and pipe once done get some silicone sealant round the base to make it water tight
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyFri May 22, 2015 11:48 pm

oldstrain wrote:
I just cut mine straight through the felt but its a very tight fit I used a core bit on my drill especially designed for 100 mil pipe openings from my father in law as he is a plumber  and sealed around with a gutter sealant ...it was expensive but worth it ...I cut out for the 100mil pipe close to a roof timber and fixed the pipe to that timber on the inside of the loft so theirs no movement in the pipe to brak the seal exposed to the weather and pushed mesh up inside the pipe to stop any vermin coming down into the loft I then used a pronafit smoke bomb to test it ...the sealant I used does not shrink


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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 5:24 pm

What's the difference between a test loft race and a 1 loft race
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 5:35 pm

not much with OLR you need a licence from the rpra and they hold the prize money with a test loft if no prize money they can go by club racing the rings having been transferred , not all OLR transfer the rings to there loft so the bird always belongs to the owner that is I see it but could be wrong
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 5:39 pm

all so with OLR accounts have to be given to the rpra each year
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 5:45 pm

our 2016 test loft will simply be friends/members breeding our member who is running the test loft ybs to test for them......simple,

it is no different to normal club racing where a fancier buys ybs in to try, only he is getting them free from other members.
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 5:58 pm

agree david I was only trying to tell him the difference not applying anything to this test loft
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 6:11 pm

just trying to explain George, maybe boosey was thinking of joining........ cheers most other test/one lofts are run for profit and are run under rpra rules etc, but ours isn't about money its simply testing members ybs for them.  Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 6:23 pm

steve (boosey) is in the test loft for next year...their are prizes but its all done on trust and I can assure yer in good hands pirat  if any member wants to pull out they can no problem or offence taken I have allowed for a few pulling out this always happens which is why I took a few extra on...both chimneys have been fitted to the loft now and the loft itself is empty now and will be adapted with darkness shutters in due course Smile I am also hopeful of getting a good sponsor on board...work in progress cheers
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 6:28 pm

johnnorm2 has asked to enter I have no objection so yer in john
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 6:29 pm

I'm still in Darren I was just curious what the difference was.
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 6:32 pm

no difference steve only difference is its on a smaller scale bud and not open to tom dick or harry just this sites members
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 6:59 pm

steve you ask the difference I told you the difference having sent birds to both I was not referring to this test loft
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 9:51 pm

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johnnorm2 has asked to enter  I have no objection so yer in john

Thanks darren i am looking forward to it Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptySun Jun 21, 2015 10:05 pm

welcome aboard john........looking forward to it. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyMon Jun 22, 2015 4:38 pm

I have managed to get a sponsor for the test loft they are paying for the vaccine some supplements I use all natural stuff and also they are donating £100 for the up-keep of the birds (corn) but I will put that £100 to the test loft for ace bird over all the races so the most consistent bird will get £100 and this will be done on a simple points basis with the first 6 birds to the loft getting points 1st 6 pts 2nd 5 pts 3rd 4pts etc...bird with most points will scoop the money ,i would like to take this opportunity to thank the management at ropa and my friend henk de brueijs for the sponsorship Very Happy welcome to the ROPA TEST LOFT 2016

so it will be as follows
£100 ace bird over all races
£300 1st bird last race £200 2nd £100 3rd
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PostSubject: Re: test loft 2016   test loft 2016 - Page 6 EmptyMon Jun 22, 2015 4:44 pm

Thats great news mate. You got some great prizes aswell Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy . Well done on getting a sponsor mate thats great work on your part. Good luck to all that decide to join up Very Happy Very Happy
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