Hardest thing to master

What's the hardest thing to master in pigeon racing.
In my opinion it's getting the feeding right.

ide say the ventilation first cus no matter what you feed if there not healthy feeding wont do much for them

Myself i would say the system your are going to be racing, Time management for that system, and if you can manage that, Is the system right for those birds in your loft. It comes down to Who, What, When, Why and where, and you may still get it wrong.

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

health....its a bigger package than most realise and I don't mean ramming medications down their necks every week ,grahams correct in what he says in my opinion the loft environment is paramount to basic health but that's just the start of it ...remember we live in a very damp climate with very unpredictable weather...keeping birds healthy when they are mixing in the basket with tom dick and harrys birds is a different ball game to when they are resting in the off season

agree with Graham ventilation

birdy2011 wrote:

ide say the ventilation first cus no matter what you feed if there not healthy  feeding wont do much for them

I would have to agree 110% G

devo56 wrote:

Myself i would say the system your are going to be racing, Time management for that system, and if you can manage that, Is the system right for those birds in your loft. It comes down to Who, What, When, Why and where, and you may still get it wrong.

Will agree there George

If you work ; Its finding the Time Required & then the System you can use to fit it ; But thats the tip of the Ice Burg as they say ;

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

birdy2011 wrote:

ide say the ventilation first cus no matter what you feed if there not healthy  feeding wont do much for them

I've always been intrigued G when people talk about ventilation & the birds to area ratio etc type thing in a loft. From my perspective I've seen some cracking flyers here whose line of thought is differant to yours (Bricks on floor senaro) . Now I will go with top quality pigeons of the highest order & I have a feeling they can/could overcome most issues to do with managemant,time,feed, decease & training as an example.
Now !!!. Good topic & with an ounce of luck we just might become a bit more the wiser here.

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

Don's advise, makes it all sound so easy I suspect David . Sadly tho for many it all falls apart, if one has to work till dark, has trees in abundance all around them (Like me) or are surrounded by houses etc.

yes knackered, theory is different to practice...........

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

David here's one thing to do yes you are correct your birds beat you back from training but why not fly your birds for an hour first then get your birds in give them no food

Get your birds in basket leave them in the baskets in loft then get the food truffs out and place a small amount of food in them but allow the birds to know that food is waiting for them

They will not mess about if you come home and see pigeons still out messing about then lock the loft feed the ones in the loft and once all feed allow the others in BUT DO NOT FEED THEM

The next night they will not mess about if they do and can't learn quickly via there stomach then they are not worth keeping

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

You can also have a maniquin at the loft to make it look like your already at the loft waiting for them

And I have seen and read about it in Belgium

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

You can also have a maniquin at the loft to make it look like your already at the loft waiting for them
And I have seen and read about it in Belgium

Sounds OK Don "A mannequin" One hot blonde etc. Trouble is. She who must be obeyed here will bring her stick into play & I don't think my body could stand the punishement now, sadly I'm .

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

You can also have a maniquin at the loft to make it look like your already at the loft waiting for them
And I have seen and read about it in Belgium

Sounds OK Don "A mannequin" One hot blonde etc. Trouble is. She who must be obeyed here will bring her stick into play & I don't think my body could stand the punishement now, sadly I'm .

Now you showing your hidden secrets Knackered

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

You can also have a maniquin at the loft to make it look like your already at the loft waiting for them
And I have seen and read about it in Belgium

Sounds OK Don "A mannequin" One hot blonde etc. Trouble is. She who must be obeyed here will bring her stick into play & I don't think my body could stand the punishement now, sadly I'm .

Now you showing your hidden secrets Knackered

MMMMMMMMmmmmm Many have a dark side to them selves Don etc I suspect. Unfortunately       my missus      wouldn't allow me to follow mine, sadly.

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

You can also have a maniquin at the loft to make it look like your already at the loft waiting for them
And I have seen and read about it in Belgium

Sounds OK Don "A mannequin" One hot blonde etc. Trouble is. She who must be obeyed here will bring her stick into play & I don't think my body could stand the punishement now, sadly I'm .

Now you showing your hidden secrets Knackered

MMMMMMMMmmmmm Many have a dark side to them selves Don etc I suspect. Unfortunately       my missus      wouldn't allow me to follow mine, sadly.

You need to stop wearing her knickers and you might be able to have your own wicked way with her

A couple of guys here have Maiquins ;i think one as 3 ; he leaves one home ;takes one for a drive & sleeps with the other ? He tell me he gets no Complaints from any of them ;lol

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

Don Webb wrote:

David wrote:

getting ybs to trap............especially on race day

That's easy never allow your birds to mess about the loft they are either in the sky flying or in the loft as soon as called

that's ok when you are lucky enough to be there when they get home from training, if you train yourself the birds are usually home well before you..........so this makes it harder to get them into a routine

You can also have a maniquin at the loft to make it look like your already at the loft waiting for them
And I have seen and read about it in Belgium

Sounds OK Don "A mannequin" One hot blonde etc. Trouble is. She who must be obeyed here will bring her stick into play & I don't think my body could stand the punishement now, sadly I'm .

Now you showing your hidden secrets Knackered

MMMMMMMMmmmmm Many have a dark side to them selves Don etc I suspect. Unfortunately       my missus      wouldn't allow me to follow mine, sadly.

You need to stop wearing her knickers and you might be able to have your own wicked way with her

Did you have to mention that Don "Knickers" here. Our daughter uses my computor at times here & if she found out I was a bit kinky I suspect I could be in a spot of bother "Big time".

The best thing to so is leave the Thongs to the daughter and stick to the parachutes of the misses that way your daughter can't accuse you have wearing hers

The wife

The wife