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PostSubject: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 6:59 pm

what do members use they are many different ideas and theories whats yours i have used elderberry for youngbirds its a natural antibiotic and helps the immune system
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 7:06 pm

Im a big believer in propolis as a natural antibiotic
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 7:12 pm

what is it ken and where do you get it from
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 7:15 pm

Propolis

For well over a century modern science has progressed at a startling rate. With this increase in knowledge has come medicinal and healthcare benefits that have seen ages peak and diseases eradicated. These medical advances were based around the paradigm of the "magic bullet", isolating the active ingredient and using it to alter the chemistry of a single molecule/protein to elicit a change of state in the patient. Success however has turned to obsession as cracks appear in the armoury of disease fighting drugs at our disposal. MRSA is rifling through our hospitals as antibiotics become ineffective and severe side effects of modern drugs are becoming common place now years after their introduction. A direct consequence of a one dimensional strategy, it is maybe the time to acknowledge the synergistic health benefits of natural medicine.

Propolis is a unique natural medicine because of its breadth of action. It has antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal, anti-inflammatory, anti-cancer and immunomodulatory effects, it could help treat asthma, allergies, arthritis and joint disorders, eczema and dermatitis, ME, viral infections including HIV and even cancer. This medicine could help treat an illness or keep you fit and healthy.

Propolis - Defender of the City
Propolis is a mainly resinous substance that bees collect from trees and plants. Being made up of waxes, resins, fatty acids and even amino acids. Aristotle reputedly coined the name Propolis meaning "defender of the city". This is exactly what Propolis is for the hive, it acts as a bee population's external immune system keeping the hive sterile and free of microbial invaders.

Evidence Based Medicine
In the following paragraphs I will describe to you the pharmacological properties of Propolis. Before I do so I must explain where this evidence comes from. All the properties and actions of Propolis have been witnessed and detailed in scientific studies which have subsequently been published in journals. The bulk of these scientific studies have been performed in vitro (i.e. in a test tube) or in vivo (i.e. in a host animal for example rats), a much smaller proportion of these studies are clinical trials tested on humans. The abstracts of these papers can be found on the Medline and pubmed databases on the Internet.

Propolis - a Natural Antibiotic
Propolis is probably best known for its antibiotic properties. Even as early as 1960 French1 research demonstrated the bacteriostatic action on Bacillus subtilis, Proteus vulgaris and Bacillus alvei. The results have been replicated many times and Propolis has even been shown to be effective to MRSA2, the same antibiotic resistant bacteria that has infected up to 70% of our hospitals. A 1997 study by Calder et al.3 at the University of Oxford concurred with these results and found that the cinnaminic acids and flavanoids present in Propolis in particular show bacteriocidal action. This action believed to be as a consequence of Propolis uncoupling the bacterial energy respiratory chain. Interestingly this action may be involved in a synergistic action with antibiotics when used together, boosting the effectiveness of the drugs.

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sounds good ken how much is it and where do you get it from
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 7:21 pm

Ian Any herbal shop it cost £ 4.99 for a small bottle which will last a couple of seasons
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 7:23 pm

going to get some thanks ken
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thanks ken
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 8:49 pm

David read this on propolis
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 9:33 pm

Ken that is bang on mate, spot on information Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 9:35 pm

If it's good for humans it will be perfect for the pigeons study study
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 10:43 pm

yes spot on ken
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 10:43 pm

great information
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptySun Mar 21, 2010 10:52 pm

Come on Ian playing again 2 word posts lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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Sorry 3 then a 2 word post lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!
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yes ok boss Laughing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 8:36 am

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got some coming 4-99 delivered off net
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 3:17 pm

couple of health shops near me so ill go get some at weekend......... Very Happy best to be prepared.......... Razz Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:04 pm

Good to see you are able to obtain the substance without breaking the bank Very Happy
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Good to see you are able to obtain the substance without breaking the bank Very Happy

yes don, ill bet if it was a pigeon product it would cost 4 times as much......... affraid
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:50 pm

I will second that mate everytime
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:52 pm

i would emagine we could get the equivelant of most of these pigeon products at health shops, and for a fraction of the price too............. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:54 pm

More than likely David but it's just finding them ?????????????????
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PostSubject: Re: natural antibiotics and tonics   natural antibiotics and tonics EmptyMon Mar 22, 2010 11:56 pm

yes true don, but if members can let us know of any they have used like ken did yesterday then we all could benefit from it............. Very Happy
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Yes it would help loads and also help keep the cost down
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