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PostSubject: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 9:46 am

if your birds had a real tough race , and I mean a real tough one , would you fly it out as normal , or would you rest it and miss a race with it , me I would keep it locked in till Friday morning , then when let out as normal if it seemed ok it would go back to the race that night . cheers
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:32 am

I would keep the bird in a few days just open loft up see what the bird wanted to do and how it exercised I think if I really valued the bird I would give a week off always another day another race but that's just me
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:08 am

if it was me I would give it as much time as it needed to get back to full health, if that meant one week, two weeks or three weeks, it wouldn't go until it was right........no point throwing it away after it had worked so hard to get home in a tough race.......
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:39 am

That's why your a pigeon keeper David and not a pigeon racer.
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:34 pm

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That's why your a pigeon keeper David and not a pigeon racer.


yes true edgie, I think your right there....... Embarassed Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:02 pm

I've not got that far yet, but I can see the sense in what edgie and old strain are saying, personally I would probably use a bit of both, rest and see how it recovers, if unsure wait for another race, good answers from both fanciers
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:30 pm

The thing is if you don't push them they will loose confidence and before you know it racing will have moved too far away and you finish up building a new
Loft for the sofftees. You must take consideration you have a new generation coming through. So therefore let nature sort them ?
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:11 pm

survival of the fittest eh edgie...?
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:56 pm

Correct
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:01 pm

how many birds you got altogether edgie,,,?
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:45 pm

Keep it in for a few days on a light feed then let it out if it wont's to fly that's OK then one or two short training tosses and back in to racing
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:49 pm

I would give it a second chance but if it went missing again or was late bye bye
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:52 pm

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how many birds you got altogether edgie,,,?
32 pair to race
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:52 pm

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if your birds had a real tough race , and I mean a real tough one , would you fly it out as normal , or would you rest it and miss a race with it , me I would keep it locked in till Friday morning , then when let out as normal if it seemed ok it would go back to the race that night . cheers

Would agree Boss but its all about observation plenty of rest yes but for me once the bird has exercised round the loft see what the pigeons reactions are like once it has landed a pigeon will soon show you its condition

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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:53 pm

But how many of us have had pigeons returned late from a and placed them straight back into the basket to turn up as your first pigeon ?????
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:07 am

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if it was me I would give it as much time as it needed to get back to full health, if that meant one week, two weeks or three weeks, it wouldn't go until it was right........no point throwing it away after it had worked so hard to get home in a tough race.......

If a bird can not recover from the REALLY hard race in 2 weeks, there is something wrong with the bird.

After all, I am not aware of anyone on this forum that flies birds really long distances, like over
555 miles. (Or am I wrong again?)  Or belong to the bigger associations like the BBC, BICC and National FC, where birds have to fly very long distances against thousands of birds from all parts of the country.

I think, if a birds flies anything under 450 miles, it should be able to recover within 36 hours, if not less.

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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:36 am

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David wrote:
if it was me I would give it as much time as it needed to get back to full health, if that meant one week, two weeks or three weeks, it wouldn't go until it was right........no point throwing it away after it had worked so hard to get home in a tough race.......

If a bird can not recover from the REALLY hard race in 2 weeks, there is something wrong with the bird.

After all, I am not aware of anyone on this forum that flies birds really long distances, like over
555 miles. (Or am I wrong again?)  Or belong to the bigger associations like the BBC, BICC and National FC, where birds have to fly very long distances against thousands of birds from all parts of the country.

I think, if a birds flies anything under 450 miles, it should be able to recover within 36 hours, if not less.

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I for one shall now be sending to races well over 500 miles this year now I have got a team again , I used to go to tarbes 728 miles and hopefully will do again , as for a tired bird if it has not recoverd in 3 days then I am afraid it is finished
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:44 am

hate 2 day races phil ....bicc bbc nationals are not for me I quite enjoy club and fed as it still gives time with the family to but each to his own so long as you enjoy it don't matter where you race or the distance Smile
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:55 am

my interest in pigeon racing has always been the distance , I was 2nd in my first attempt , that set the stage for me back in 1972 , since then that is what I have been interested in , and now I have a strong team again I can afford a few knocks now , I have a couple of families more than capable of long distances flying , all I have to do is work them hard get them in the right frame of mind and send them , I am confident that some will do what is asked of them
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:57 am

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my interest in pigeon racing has always been the distance , I was 2nd in my first attempt , that set the stage for me back in 1972 , since then that is what I have been interested in , and now I have a strong team again I can afford a few knocks now , I have a couple of families more than capable of long distances flying , all I have to do is work them hard get them in the right frame of mind and send them , I am confident that some will do what is asked of them

good luck to you steve Smile
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:00 am

there is nothing better than to clock a 500 to 560 miler on the day , and if you ask one of your members who won what they probably wont remember ? , but ask them who won the furthest they will all remember that one
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:02 am

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my interest in pigeon racing has always been the distance , I was 2nd in my first attempt , that set the stage for me back in 1972 , since then that is what I have been interested in , and now I have a strong team again I can afford a few knocks now , I have a couple of families more than capable of long distances flying , all I have to do is work them hard get them in the right frame of mind and send them , I am confident that some will do what is asked of them

good luck to you steve Smile
thanks it wont be for not trying cheers
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:30 am

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But how many of us have had pigeons returned late from a and placed them straight back into the basket to turn up as your first pigeon ?????
yes I have and won the race it clearly has had a rest at somebodys expence but they go missing again as soon as it gets harder ?
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:18 am

you've got to give any pigeon a second chance and time to recover, a lot of champion birds have made a mistake and learned from it.
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PostSubject: Re: what would you do   Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:43 am

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you've got to give any pigeon a second chance and time to recover, a lot of champion birds have made a mistake and learned from it.


yes you do littlehen, they all deserve another chance.....simply because we don't know what they go through to get home along the journey.
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