welcome bluewhiteflight

hi darren, welcome to the forum....glad you have joined us. look forward to your posts.

hi, welcome

hi bluewhiteflight,welcome to the site,look forward to chatting.

thank you eve ryone

look forward to hearing about your birds darren....where abouts are you and hows your racing going ?

im in lancaster, just have 10 celibate cocks havent raced this year but sending to cheltenham week afer next. been training 50 miles daily

some of the members on our site sent to the channel last week and it was a bad race with a lot of birds missing and although some have returned there are still a lot not come back yet.....

were they held over till monday

no i dont think they were darren...if i can remember right they took 9+ hours on the day....

ok, i know our feds were heldover till monday from mangotsfield

welcome to the sight look forward to hearing your veiws blue and white flight

darren,have your ybs started racing yet ?some started yesterday........wondered how yours were doing as the obs did well for you in the comebacks.

hi david no they start next saturday from stafford, im waiting a couple of weeks later as they arent ready yet to start training, just heard today had 4 in top 12 of fed in last race, some of result in this weeks bhw under fed results red rose fed

Hi Darren welcome to the site hope you enjoy it

Darren what type of racing do you like sprint or long distance?

lol don im not new member weve chatted before on here, i like any distance but wanting to get my fsmily upto 500-600, just bought a very class pigeon an hour ago to try and achieve this

Yes your right Darren sorry about the mix up

What pigeon have you brought?? what is the breed??

hi don no problem lol

just bought a pigeon called champion joner

Champion Joner 96 Z 82425 Halterman
he was a super racer and breeder to match, he is getting on but i have 6 ybs from him this year, he will be offered with a dtr from 2007 of Pheonix and opening bids at £50 and i would say you buy the hen and the cock comes free, she is a nice blue hen with a strong eye and good balance.
Joner won;
1st Club Rennes
1st Club 25th Com Saintes 2730b
1st Somerset & Avon 2bird Nantes
2nd Club 12th Com Nantes 4790b
17th Open CSCFC Nantes 3111b
59th Open CSCFC Messac 4353b
135th Open BBC Nantes 2691b
183rd Open Ramsgate.
He is sire of scores of winners including 1st Club 1st WOESRC Saintes 400 miles and 14 hrs on the wing, plus many many more, a grand dtr last year race 9 yb race the last two being Faliase 220 miles 4th Combine and Tours 310 miles 160th Nat, she was runner up Ace yb WOESRC as well with 6th Combine Littlehampton.

hi darren, have you bought the actual bird joner ? wow, some pigeon if it is......or is it a yb off him ? look good stock to introduce darren, hope they do well for you...

The breed of this cock was raced by Frank Tasker in the early 80's and they were used for sprint racing if this cock was raced down south then the type of racing this cock has done is middle distance racing, if you are tyring to get long distance pigeons 500 miles plus then you may need a different pigeon, but this is only my opinion everyone has there own ideas for the type of pigeon they want for there type of racing.

i was intrested in it as it is franks old haelteman lines and my vandenheedes are the old haeleman lines , i also got his hen , i will be taking ybs off them next year and croosing them into my lines , ifi get pigeons to win 400-500 ill be happy as i think i need a more extreme line in them to get upto 600 miles but saying that a bloke won in our club 1st and 2nd niort last week only two on the night 540 miles with lambrechts and i thought they were sprinters but could be wrong, i had an old cock about 15 years ago he had never won from niort for his previous owner and i took over his lofts and prepared him for niort 543 miles and he was motivated right , driving and feeding a big yb and also paired top another hen and sitting and he came and was only bird in this area on the night but he was motivated

It's all about management if thats right you can get any pigeon to win in the right condition

Your right about the lambrecths they are sprint pigeons but wityh the right feeding and management then lookat what happens

Look at albert babington his Janssen van den bosch they were sprint pigeons but they won the national at the distance also

ive heard that sprint pigeons can also win at the distance, like you say don the janssens are known to do it but ive also heard that once the sprint bird has raced the distance it will be no good again for the sprints....(.only what ive read)

funny that david i,ve heard that as well,only very long distances like 450 to 600 they do not seem the same when they come to the shorter ones