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Matrix by gem Raypeel-1The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
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PostSubject: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 4:31 pm

I no this subject has been up before but does anyone still use matrix if so is it still as good when it first came out as it must be 10 years since I brought some and might give it to the stock when feeding
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 4:57 pm

We bought it for the first time this year, birds love it but I find it's very dusty, and I mean dusty, you throw a handful down and a cloud of dust comes up, don't know if it's always been like that
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 6:35 pm

Iv used matrix for a few years but i know prefer DE PATAGOON not as dusty as martrix. Smile
works out cheaper.
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 7:42 pm

Any idea how much De patagoon is and what quantity it comes in
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 9:35 pm

i make me own 12 red pick pots 12 clay blocks 1 kilo of crushed oyster shell 1lb of pink mineral and 1lb of black mix it together lasts for ages ...add small seeds to it if ya want or pellets ,did use matrix then went onto versa laga all in one and thought it no better than the mix above so stick with the cheaper option now the one I liked most was the beyers multimix but again worked out expensive they also get a basic mixed grit atb
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 10:04 pm

markevans wrote:
Any idea how much De patagoon is and what quantity it comes in
£14 for 10k pj lofts i get it a bit cheaper local corn man Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 11:38 pm

used to use matrix all the time a few years ago, then one time they didn't have any so I bought de patagoon instead, and used it ever since........a couple of months ago they didn't have de patagoon so I bought a couple of tubs of matrix and what a load of sh*te it was, totally different from a couple of years ago, absolute sh*t......I would have been better sweeping up gravel off the street, it would have been better.

another case of big companies ripping the fancier off......reel them in with a good mix, then change it and the "mugs" will keep buying it, that's what they think.

not this mug anyway........
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 11:57 pm

I assume a grit mix?
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySun Dec 17, 2017 12:25 am

halcanada wrote:
I assume a grit mix?

yes hal, different grits, pink minerals etc.......
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySun Dec 17, 2017 12:36 am

Honestly do not understand. Grit. Pigeons need grit. Hen or chicken grit. Salt and minerals. Mineral block for livestock $3. Enough salt in it for the birds. All the minerals they need. Put in earth or a turf, sod of grass, they have everything they need.
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySun Dec 17, 2017 1:57 am

Cattle licks that iv had are abit to salty yeah grit is cheap enough but like to give a bit extra
Might make no difference but makes me happy...abit like 1 pot cooking its got the lot in lol
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySun Dec 17, 2017 2:29 am

fieldwalker wrote:
Cattle licks that iv had are abit to salty yeah grit is cheap enough but like to give a bit extra
Might make no difference but makes me happy...abit like 1 pot cooking its got the lot in lol
It's a self control thing I've found FW Smile Smile with pigeons & cattle licks etc. In all honesty, I've had cattle/horse licks & or salt in my lofts 24/7/52 & have never found it an issue of any concern etc. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySun Dec 17, 2017 10:41 am

horse/cattle licks, different flavours, last for ever
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PostSubject: Re: Matrix by gem   Matrix by gem EmptySun Dec 17, 2017 11:46 am

always found the licks leave a pool of water beneath them in the loft obviously the sodium melting ...so give kilpatricks black minerals now instead and seems to contain all the salt they need also the red pick pots are good and contain sodium amongst all the other stuff...if I had clean land near me I would go down hals route and use soil none better as a mineral mix ,clay is good as a detox also contains minerals
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