Genetics..pedigrees

Pigeons next?
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Probably Hal. I don't like it. We have more injuries to horses, because they mess with things. Lots of horses have smaller hooves than they use to. Causes all kinds of issues.

a lot of dog breeds have deformaties bred into them, certain bull breeds have short pallets and over large tongues, they cant breath properly and have to have operations , that's not nature......also certain breeds have faults with the ears or over shot/ under shot jaws, or leg/joint/hip problems.....

David wrote:

a lot of dog breeds have deformaties bred into them, certain bull breeds have short pallets and over large tongues, they cant breath properly and have to have operations , that's not nature......also certain breeds have faults with the ears or over shot/ under shot jaws, or leg/joint/hip problems.....

I have a book here by Dr Anderson "Pigeon fanatic" David written in 1947, which speaks of the problems he had with his bulldogs etc & the dangers in, in breeding so to speak. Made him wary in pigeon terms & he always was looking to find a good cross for his birds there at the time.  

David wrote:

a lot of dog breeds have deformaties bred into them, certain bull breeds have short pallets and over large tongues, they cant breath properly and have to have operations , that's not nature......also certain breeds have faults with the ears or over shot/ under shot jaws, or leg/joint/hip problems.....

I couldn't agree more David. The American kennel club has ruined about every breed here. My oldest dog is 17 now. He is a beefed up Queensland heeler. Tough dog but he has more dingo bred back into him. I bought him off the bison range when he was 12 weeks.

sounds interesting rom, is he a terrier type or a husky type...never heard of a queensland heeler.

Try Australian cattle dog David.  Mine are the red variety.

ah right, yes ie seen them, a rugged looking dog rom, look a good working dog.........

Blue Heeler also.

is it the same dog, but different colour hal...?

Yes. Speckled, red, blue variations. Have a crossbred here.

Ozzie.

Romedius wrote:

David wrote:

a lot of dog breeds have deformaties bred into them, certain bull breeds have short pallets and over large tongues, they cant breath properly and have to have operations , that's not nature......also certain breeds have faults with the ears or over shot/ under shot jaws, or leg/joint/hip problems.....

I couldn't agree more David.  The American kennel club has ruined about every breed here.  My oldest dog is 17 now.  He is a beefed up Queensland heeler. Tough dog but he has more dingo bred back into him.  I bought him off the bison range when he was 12 weeks.

True Rom Smart & tough etc the old aussie dog & faithful to boot too a good owner. Not what we call here a Toorak toff type with their fancy mix inbred types they have, but more suited to a Ned Kelly type of guy or even a cattle rustler type      as one could say.  

halcanada wrote:

Ozzie.

looks a strong, hardy dog hal.........not one you carry in your hand bag I presume

Knackered wrote:

Romedius wrote:

David wrote:

a lot of dog breeds have deformaties bred into them, certain bull breeds have short pallets and over large tongues, they cant breath properly and have to have operations , that's not nature......also certain breeds have faults with the ears or over shot/ under shot jaws, or leg/joint/hip problems.....

I couldn't agree more David.  The American kennel club has ruined about every breed here.  My oldest dog is 17 now.  He is a beefed up Queensland heeler. Tough dog but he has more dingo bred back into him.  I bought him off the bison range when he was 12 weeks.

True Rom Smart & tough etc the old aussie dog & faithful to boot too a good owner. Not what we call here a Toorak toff type with their fancy mix inbred types they have, but more suited to a Ned Kelly type of guy or even a cattle rustler type      as one could say.  

Exactly so knackered! I knew a guy that drug a dead cow down by his house for the boxer dogs to chew on. First night wolves killed both dogs. don't know what he was thinking, they were nice dogs. Friendly, but don't have the temperament for the mountains. Found two yellow lab skulls in a lion den this summer. No one listens to me anymore, what ever animal planet says

Ozzie is getting old. Still strong and smart though

This fellow is getting on in years but will kill a coon in a flash. Mastiff looking out the kitchen window. 9 month old female Corso.

Cane Corso. Same father as the Mastiff. She will be in heat in a month or two. I am not looking forward to it!!!

halcanada wrote:

Cane Corso. Same father as the Mastiff. She will be in heat in a month or two. I am not looking forward to it!!!

Hold on tight!!! Don't get bitten!!

Pretty dogs. The mastiff father (I presume) she took the coarseness off the cane Corso side. Beautiful by the way hal. I don't know what route I'm going when my 17 year old goes. Maybe a kuvasz? I wanted one before I got Poncho at 12 weeks

My oldest. What are you breeding her with Hal? Got me curious now.

Romedius wrote:

My oldest.  What are you breeding her with Hal?  Got me curious now.

Not another one this curious thing here just has to stop etc it just creates bedlam .
*****

heres my "pup" for you knackered, sounds like your a dog lover..........

Romedius wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Romedius wrote:

David wrote:

a lot of dog breeds have deformaties bred into them, certain bull breeds have short pallets and over large tongues, they cant breath properly and have to have operations , that's not nature......also certain breeds have faults with the ears or over shot/ under shot jaws, or leg/joint/hip problems.....

I couldn't agree more David.  The American kennel club has ruined about every breed here.  My oldest dog is 17 now.  He is a beefed up Queensland heeler. Tough dog but he has more dingo bred back into him.  I bought him off the bison range when he was 12 weeks.

True Rom Smart & tough etc the old aussie dog & faithful to boot too a good owner. Not what we call here a Toorak toff type with their fancy mix inbred types they have, but more suited to a Ned Kelly type of guy or even a cattle rustler type      as one could say.  

Exactly so knackered!  I knew a guy that drug a dead cow down by his house for the boxer dogs to chew on.  First night wolves  killed both dogs.   don't know what he was thinking,  they were nice dogs.  Friendly, but don't have the temperament for the mountains.  Found two yellow lab skulls in a lion den this summer.   No one listens to me anymore,  what ever animal planet says

Bears/lions you really are big on the normal suburbia bit Rom there it appears . Don't worry about the no one listening bit either it happens to me all the time here but I just keep waffling on, on my merry way   as I enjoy making them all  some what confused with my speel here as such. Now carn't find the brake, so just grin & bare with me Rom as there just maybe something for your medicene cabinet . I have a friend
"ex pigeon man" who by chance has the same name as a well known pigeon flyer Vet on the east coast over there called Kasmierczak. Won more combine races in the biggest combine in America type of thing. recommends a thing called Muriatic acid, Some call it hydrochloric acid or me being me  an old plumber type who has sadly sniffed it all my life & I just call it here spirits of salts as such. Now, his words not mine 8cc's to an american gallon type of thing when having problems/issues, which then can be lowered to 4cc's once a week as a general tonic early in the week as such. Buy it at the local hardware/plumbing store there I suspect & a damm sight cheaper than many things ones buys from the Vet brigade these days. Also if you are some what concerned with my waffle/wisdom. Levi, one the early pioneers in the pigeon game also had it his goodies bag as a must have & he kept 20,000 odd birds/pigeons in his time.

what do you give them that for knackered......?

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