Ill Birds , Help Please.

Romedius wrote:

Knackered wrote:

Romedius wrote:

markevans wrote:

Its quite a good topic to start with all for the wrong reasons though[/quote

Sure is Mark.  My birds have never been vaccinated for anything.  I am being told to absolutely not give them anything.  Makes me nervous though.  I'm sure glad my birds were sold to me on the up and up.  I can't imagine bringing sick birds unintentionally into my new loft.  What a heart break!  
I wish the best for you Denise.  These folks have been a big help to me

Why should you vaccinate Rom living where you are etc Whole differant ball game thou for those living in smog city as such .
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I would like to send 10 to 15 to one loft races.  Not sure if that is taken care of at the loft or not.  Not much info on some of those I'm wanting to throw money at

See Mark here Rom any money you wish to throw away as such he will be only to happy accept I feel .

hope it all pans out ok for the birds their ...keep them quarantined for 3 weeks from vaccinating as that's the incubation period for the disease ...good luck

oldstrain wrote:

hope it all pans out ok for the birds their ...keep them quarantined for 3 weeks from vaccinating as that's the incubation period for the disease ...good luck

thanks all for your advice got them all quarantined been watching them today not seen them throwing their heads back like others did poo looks solid none runny all look ok touch wood just have to wait now
thanks alot all denise

good luck denise, I hope you have managed to catch it in time, and theres no new cases break out.....keep us up to date on their progress, and if theres anything else you might want to know, I`m sure people here will be more than happy to help.

David wrote:

good luck denise, I hope you have managed to catch it in time, and theres no new cases break out.....keep us up to date on their progress, and if theres anything else you might want to know, I`m sure people here will be more than happy to help.

will do David thanks sent man i bought them off a message but got no reply yet
denise

That's good to hear Denise that all is well at the moment each day one at a time with this just remember anything that doesn't look right have it out

denise, and news on your birds.....no more ill I hope, all looking ok ?

David wrote:

denise, and news on your birds.....no more ill I hope, all looking ok ?

Hi David had one die on thursday but they all look ok feeding well and keep checking their poo all looks ok sent a message to the man i got them off hes seen it but not replied thats good on him will keep in touch on how they are going on hope weve got treated them intime
thanks denise

hi denise, which bird was it that died, one you bought off the man or one of your own...?


yes its fanciers like that that give pigeon keeping a bad name, it happens more often than we think.......ive known of fanciers buying top bloodlines of racers , only to have them ill upon arrival , thankfully they were sorted and back to full health, but unfortunately that's not always the case.

lets hope yours are out of danger now denise, and thrive from now on........

David wrote:

hi denise, which bird was it that died, one you bought off the man or one of your own...?


yes its fanciers like that that give pigeon keeping a bad name, it happens more often than we think.......ive known of fanciers buying top bloodlines of racers , only to have them ill upon arrival , thankfully they were sorted and back to full health, but unfortunately that's not always the case.

lets hope yours are out of danger now denise, and thrive from now on........

i hope weve got them in time i hate to loose my animals they have soon learnt when im on garden they are waiting for me at door for feeding lol dont think they got fed right before first 2/3 days when i went to feed them it was like a swarm of bees diving on me but now now they know theres food for them they are ok
denise

I'm glad things are starting to sort out better for you. Still no word back from breeder huh?
I've got a hen that pecks in my hand no matter how much she has eaten she may have a sweet tooth

did the bird that died thursday show signs of paramyxo virus ...usually with this virus theirs a lot of watery droppings ...they can also show signs of a twisted neck with paratyphoid ...which is a different ball game to paramyxo virus ,anyway lets hope their are no more casualties atb

Romedius wrote:

I'm glad things are starting to sort out better for you.  Still no word back from breeder huh?  
I've got a hen that pecks in my hand no matter how much she has eaten   she may have a sweet tooth

Hi Romedius not heard a thing from breeder it was not a nasty message i sent him i just told him about them and if he as any left to get them treated and also told him im not happy that hes sold me ill birds you would have thought he would have relpied but some people dont care
denise

oldstrain wrote:

did the bird that died thursday show signs of paramyxo virus ...usually  with this virus theirs a lot of watery droppings ...they can also show signs of a twisted neck with paratyphoid ...which is a different ball game to paramyxo virus ,anyway lets hope their are no more casualties atb

H hi there was no signs of twisted neck or watery droppings it was just sat on floor stiff and seen no watery poo in loft had a good look and it all looks ok
denise

its very hard to pass judgement and be 100% on a few sentences and no visual evidence as so many pigeon diseases mimic others but I have read through the topic and it states earlier in the topic you had birds twisting their necks and that points to pmv or salmonella/paratyphoid lets hope it was the former,sometimes birds get very ill in a new environment shortly after getting there due to new bacteria in the new loft or stress seems to bring on ailments that have been underlying so always best to quarantine and don't think the big boys wont send dodgey birds out because they do and heres 2 for you "Louella" and "red star lofts (alun jones) "a lot out there will take yer money and run

oldstrain wrote:

its very hard to pass judgement and be 100% on a few sentences and no visual evidence as so many pigeon diseases mimic others but I have read through the topic and it states earlier in the topic you had birds twisting their necks and that points to pmv or salmonella/paratyphoid lets hope it was the former,sometimes birds get very ill in a new environment shortly after getting there due to new bacteria in the new loft or stress seems to bring on ailments that have been underlying so always best to quarantine and don't think the big boys wont send dodgey birds out because they do and heres 2 for you "Louella" and "red star lofts (alun jones) "a lot out there will take yer money and run  

Hi Oldstrain what it was the day after i got them home after i fed them was watching them and one of them was throwing its neck round and i thought it was trying to do a rool like they do when flying next day it was dead and same with another one then the bloke i share alottment with i asked him to have a look and he sais they had that pmv and he told me to get this injection stuff but before i got some i lost another injected them last tues and only lost one since thats why i joined the forum for some help and advice
thanks denise

the man you bought them off surely must have known the birds were ill when he sold them, its shocking a pigeon fancier could do this......I cant remember if you told us denise, where was it you saw them for sale...?

David wrote:

the man you bought them off surely must have known the birds were ill when he sold them, its shocking a pigeon fancier could do this......I cant remember if you told us denise, where was it you saw them for sale...?

The man knew exactly what he was selling David to Denise etc. Just a total scum bag type I would suggest.

David wrote:

the man you bought them off surely must have known the birds were ill when he sold them, its shocking a pigeon fancier could do this......I cant remember if you told us denise, where was it you saw them for sale...?

Hi David got them from a man from Norwich hes was on preloved told me they were last years young and he did not want them to start breeding with his breeding stock

Knackered wrote:

David wrote:

the man you bought them off surely must have known the birds were ill when he sold them, its shocking a pigeon fancier could do this......I cant remember if you told us denise, where was it you saw them for sale...?

The man knew exactly what he was selling David to Denise etc. Just a total scum bag type I would suggest.

If it was not that far away i would have gone and had it out with him but 3 hours drive is too much for me to go punch his nose in

denise washington wrote:

Knackered wrote:

David wrote:

the man you bought them off surely must have known the birds were ill when he sold them, its shocking a pigeon fancier could do this......I cant remember if you told us denise, where was it you saw them for sale...?

The man knew exactly what he was selling David to Denise etc. Just a total scum bag type I would suggest.

If it was not that far away i would have gone and had it out with him but 3 hours drive is too much for me to go punch his nose in  

the man who i share garden with was a racing pigeon breeder he gave me some powder a redish colour pigeons love it cant think what it is but hope it helps them aswell

sounds like pink minerals denise, yes its good for them and they seem to like it..........


still chuckling over the "punch his nose in" comment..........

David wrote:

sounds like pink minerals denise, yes its good for them and they seem to like it..........


still chuckling over the "punch his nose in" comment..........

Hi David was been polite punch his nose could have been stronger but dont want banning off forum lol

no chance of you being banned off the forum denise, we are very easy going here, I dare say you may read some choice language sooner or later........on the odd occasion

Well try harder David to moderate your language lol