Pigeon World Forum Syndicate Bird takes 44th Place, in the 2019 RPRA One Loft Final.The Bird is Frans Zwol Bloodline, Bred and supplied by Darren Palmer (Oldstrain)
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Oldstrain/Darren`s Winner of winners. 2012.
From Fed Topper to Master Chef
The N.E.H.U race from Melton Mowbray 21/4/2012 was won by Peel bros of South Shields, they took 1st club 1st fed, also taking 2nd and 4th club and 15 of the 25 birds clocked in the club......well done Peel brothers.
Posts : 123 Join date : 2018-01-15 Age : 72 Location : Barnsley S/Yorks
Subject: new member Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:05 pm
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New Members please introduce yourself and tell us a bit about your self and your birds...
Hi all thanks for letting me join your forum i have just started up again with some rollers got a problem with them but hoping to sort it out tomorrow if not will pick your brains i also am a beekeeper have hens and ducks just like animals lol denise
David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:07 pm
hi denise Washington, glad to have you here, any help or advise you need just ask, I`m sure members here will be happy to help........
Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:55 am
David wrote:
hi denise Washington, glad to have you here, any help or advise you need just ask, I`m sure members here will be happy to help........
Same, same .
Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:00 am
David wrote:
hi denise Washington, glad to have you here, any help or advise you need just ask, I`m sure members here will be happy to help........
Some thing wrong here some where Some one loosing the plot, maybe I suspect but I'm not quite sure who .
denise washington Chipping
Posts : 123 Join date : 2018-01-15 Age : 72 Location : Barnsley S/Yorks
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:27 pm
Knackered wrote:
David wrote:
hi denise Washington, glad to have you here, any help or advise you need just ask, I`m sure members here will be happy to help........
Same, same .
hi all thanks for letting me join just trying to find my way round forum but got a Q if you can help i bought some rollers last sunday 2 days after i got them home 1 died then next day another died what it is they were twisting their necks founbeen told its pmv they have i think they called it treated them today so has any of you got any ideas what it could be thanks denise
David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:36 pm
does sound like Paramyxo, and they obviously already had it before you bought them.....did you get them off a fancier who you know, or were they for sale on the internet...?
ether way I would let him/her know they are ill.
have a look at this video.
denise washington Chipping
Posts : 123 Join date : 2018-01-15 Age : 72 Location : Barnsley S/Yorks
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:52 pm
David wrote:
does sound like Paramyxo, and they obviously already had it before you bought them.....did you get them off a fancier who you know, or were they for sale on the internet...?
ether way I would let him/her know they are ill.
have a look at this video.
hi been shown that video and it is like what they are got some treatment for them and got them injected this morning they look ok but must have been infected when i got them it was a man on preloved lives in norwich sent my son for them but think he knew about it because my son said he was burning some nest boxes
markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:58 pm
Best thing to do is get them out of your loft and vaccinate all your birds they will be no good now possible carriers big problems
denise washington Chipping
Posts : 123 Join date : 2018-01-15 Age : 72 Location : Barnsley S/Yorks
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:06 pm
markevans wrote:
Best thing to do is get them out of your loft and vaccinate all your birds they will be no good now possible carriers big problems
what would you recomend then injected them all this morning thanks denise
markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:16 pm
Anything that turns its head the wrong way jurks its head misses the food when its eating kill it separate the ones that look ok from your own birds and keep a close eye on them the new ones and your own now any birds showing signs of pmv dispose of immediately
David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:29 pm
this man needs naming and shaming, no wonder pigeon fanciers get a bad name selling ill birds knowingly....
fieldwalker Youngbird
Posts : 1857 Join date : 2011-10-01 Age : 64 Location : BOLDON COLLIERY TYNE&WEAR
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:31 pm
aye....
David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:35 pm
you cant sell sick birds, its just not on.........some just want the money and they don't care what happens after that, not only are the sale birds infected, but the fanciers own birds could be wiped out.
denise washington Chipping
Posts : 123 Join date : 2018-01-15 Age : 72 Location : Barnsley S/Yorks
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:46 pm
markevans wrote:
Best thing to do is get them out of your loft and vaccinate all your birds they will be no good now possible carriers big problems
dint have no birds before i got these ive took them out of the flight and put them into another that ive sprayed with jeys fluid then put them in there after we have injected them thats all we can do for best and hope they are ok been watching them and not seen any signs of what others had but its early days yet just hope they will be ok
David Oldbird
Posts : 43859 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:48 pm
good luck denise, fingers crossed no more become infected.......you've done all you can for now by having them injected.
oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:51 pm
denise washington wrote:
markevans wrote:
Best thing to do is get them out of your loft and vaccinate all your birds they will be no good now possible carriers big problems
what would you recomend then injected them all this morning thanks denise
injecting them will help the ones that have not gone too far backward...give natural immune boosters and plenty vitamins and minerals for the foreseeable future ...the ones that get over it will be ok to breed from or should I say the ones least affected,they will make a full recovery but may always have watery droppings ...a loft near me never vaccinated his stock and they got pmv he culled the worst ones and kept the ones showing minor signs ie trembling and the odd wipe of the eye on the side of the neck and these made a full recovery but some have always had wet droppings since ,good luck not a lot else you can do now but hope most pull through
ps give plenty b-vitamins a tea spoon of marmite to 2 litres of water would help just break the marmite down in a cup of cold water overnight and add to 2 litres of water or use brewers yeast that contains a lot of b-vitamins the main one you want is vitamin b12 you could use iodine or garlic too as a remedy to keep the canker count down or a bit of bicarb but don't compromise them with antibiotics at this stage
denise washington Chipping
Posts : 123 Join date : 2018-01-15 Age : 72 Location : Barnsley S/Yorks
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:42 pm
oldstrain wrote:
denise washington wrote:
markevans wrote:
Best thing to do is get them out of your loft and vaccinate all your birds they will be no good now possible carriers big problems
what would you recomend then injected them all this morning thanks denise
injecting them will help the ones that have not gone too far backward...give natural immune boosters and plenty vitamins and minerals for the foreseeable future ...the ones that get over it will be ok to breed from or should I say the ones least affected,they will make a full recovery but may always have watery droppings ...a loft near me never vaccinated his stock and they got pmv he culled the worst ones and kept the ones showing minor signs ie trembling and the odd wipe of the eye on the side of the neck and these made a full recovery but some have always had wet droppings since ,good luck not a lot else you can do now but hope most pull through
ps give plenty b-vitamins a tea spoon of marmite to 2 litres of water would help just break the marmite down in a cup of cold water overnight and add to 2 litres of water or use brewers yeast that contains a lot of b-vitamins the main one you want is vitamin b12 you could use iodine or garlic too as a remedy to keep the canker count down or a bit of bicarb but don't compromise them with antibiotics at this stage
thanks all for your advice will get some vits tomorrow and as for their dropping not seen any thats watery poo it just look normal so to speak so hope we have got it in time thanks denise
markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:11 pm
Best of luck denice with your birds you have done all you can now let's hope we are all wrong and it was something else and it will all be OK you never no fingers crossed
markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:13 pm
Its quite a good topic to start with all for the wrong reasons though
Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:17 pm
Hope things turn out OK for you now denise
Lofty Youngbird
Posts : 2008 Join date : 2015-10-07 Location : Swansea
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:19 pm
Just follow the advice the lads have given Denise, you've done all you can to help them recover , well done and good luck
Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:25 pm
Don Webb wrote:
Hope things turn out OK for you now denise
Same, same what could be worse than what Denise is experiencing etc by all accounts for a new comer Don. Absolute total sh*te scenario unfortunately from my perspective.
Romedius Hatchling
Posts : 358 Join date : 2017-12-17 Location : Montana, USA
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:41 pm
[quote="markevans"]Its quite a good topic to start with all for the wrong reasons though[/quote
Sure is Mark. My birds have never been vaccinated for anything. I am being told to absolutely not give them anything. Makes me nervous though. I'm sure glad my birds were sold to me on the up and up. I can't imagine bringing sick birds unintentionally into my new loft. What a heart break! I wish the best for you Denise. These folks have been a big help to me
Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:52 pm
Romedius wrote:
markevans wrote:
Its quite a good topic to start with all for the wrong reasons though[/quote
Sure is Mark. My birds have never been vaccinated for anything. I am being told to absolutely not give them anything. Makes me nervous though. I'm sure glad my birds were sold to me on the up and up. I can't imagine bringing sick birds unintentionally into my new loft. What a heart break! I wish the best for you Denise. These folks have been a big help to me
Why should you vaccinate Rom living where you are etc Whole differant ball game thou for those living in smog city as such . *****
Romedius Hatchling
Posts : 358 Join date : 2017-12-17 Location : Montana, USA
Subject: Re: Ill Birds , Help Please. Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:56 pm
Knackered wrote:
Romedius wrote:
markevans wrote:
Its quite a good topic to start with all for the wrong reasons though[/quote
Sure is Mark. My birds have never been vaccinated for anything. I am being told to absolutely not give them anything. Makes me nervous though. I'm sure glad my birds were sold to me on the up and up. I can't imagine bringing sick birds unintentionally into my new loft. What a heart break! I wish the best for you Denise. These folks have been a big help to me
Why should you vaccinate Rom living where you are etc Whole differant ball game thou for those living in smog city as such . *****
I would like to send 10 to 15 to one loft races. Not sure if that is taken care of at the loft or not. Not much info on some of those I'm wanting to throw money at