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PostSubject: Real cost of the moners strike.   Real cost of the moners strike. EmptyTue Feb 05, 2019 2:45 pm

Thatcher didn't care regards costs.


History of the Miners Strike 1984 – 1985  April 9th  An Epic Struggle  
The miners’ strike began. For a year 140,000 members of the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) were engaged in a titanic battle with Margaret Thatcher’s Tory government and the full force of the state.  
Ultimately, they went down to defeat but it was an honourable defeat. It was a dispute that would have been won were it not for the betrayal of the right wing trade union and labour leadership.
The miners’ strike was deliberately engineered by the Tory government. They saw the NUM as the backbone of the labour movement, and rightly so. The NUM had inflicted defeats on Tory governments in 1972 and 1974, effectively bringing down Edward Heath in the latter case. For a decade, the ruling class made their plans, determined that they would not be defeated for a third time. Indeed in 1981 they backed away from a possible confrontation, judging that the time was not yet right.
Police forces were trained to fight the miners well before it happened on a weekly basis.  The Dockers also, but were undermined due to man power. Like wise Steel and sea, fisheries.  Media was geared up to blacken and dish dirt. Not least regards Arthur  Scargill whose name they mish – mashed, an hodgepodge of untruths and make believes.
In 1979, the Thatcher government began to plan for the ultimate privatisation of the coal industry. The Coal Industry Act (1980) replaced production targets with financial targets. The financial targets were set so high that they could only be met by closing ’uneconomic’ collieries. The Act was intended to make the industry more attractive to private investors.
The Thatcher government implemented the Ridley Report (1978 !) in order to prepare for a dispute with the miners. Coal stocks were increased, power stations were converted from coal firing to oil firing and coal imports were increased. Transport companies were encouraged to employ non-union drivers. Benefits were cut for strikers and their families. A special mobile squad of police to deal with picketing was created.
In September 1983, Ian MacGregor was appointed as chairman of the National Coal Board (NCB). MacGregor was noted for his anti-union attitude during his career in America. Prior to joining the NCB, he had helped to cut jobs at British Steel - a process that reduced the workforce by 100,000.                                                                                               Pit closures  Strike action was finally provoked by the NCB announcement on 1 March 1984 that Cortonwood Colliery in Yorkshire was to close and that 20 other pits and 20,000 jobs were on a hit list.
The Yorkshire miners’ response was immediate and within six days the strike had spread nationally. Events unfolded rapidly. On 6 March Yorkshire miners called an indefinite strike, on the 7th Scottish miners came out and on the 9th Durham and Kent miners joined the strike.  Other areas responded more slowly. Wales, for example, initially voted to stay in but to respect picket lines. Very soon, however, the South Wales area did come out and were at the forefront of the strike until the very end.
The key early issue was persuading the Notts miners to strike. On 12 March flying pickets arrive in the Notts coalfield. Over the following days a minority of Notts miners responded to their call but a majority did not. On the 15th a flying picket David Jones was killed on picket duty at Ollerton Colliery when he was hit on the head by a brick and on the same day the Notts leadership called on their members to strike.  Support from other unions was of vital importance. On 22 March the power unions, controlled by the right, advised their members to cross NUM picket lines. In contrast the NUR, ASLEF, TSSA, TGWU and ISTC agreed to block all coal movements a few days later. Within a day steel union leader Sir Bill Sirs reneged on his pledge however. Rank and file railwaymen and seamen remained supportive throughout the strike, often putting their own jobs at risk.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               National ballot? On 5 April the Notts miners voted against striking. At this time there was a fierce debate about whether a national ballot should be called. A national delegate conference voted against a national ballot accepting that a majority of miners had actually voted for the strike at pithead meetings. Militant (forerunner of the Socialist Party) maintained a united front with the miners during this period since the lack of a ballot was being used by the right-wing to undermine the strike. But after the strike we pointed out that, because of the way the issued was used to cut across the miners’ struggle, a ballot should have been called, and would have delivered a clear mandate for strike action.  This does not mean however that there was anything undemocratic about the conduct of the dispute at this time. The miners had their say at pithead meetings. Once a majority were out the Notts miners should have supported their call. A national ballot would have helped to defuse criticism from the press and would have helped persuade the Notts miners to come out. It would not have won the support of the press, prevented the plotting of the so-called working miners groups (scabs directly organised by the ruling class) or encouraged the right wing leadership of some unions or the Labour Party to provide real support to the miners.                                                                                                 Despite the betrayal of Neil Kinnock and his ilk the strike received massive support from the working class. A MORI poll showed a majority of 68% in favour of the strike in April 1984. On a number of occasions opportunities were missed to open second fronts against the Tories. In May the rail unions NUR and ASLEF accepted an improved pay deal worth only an extra 0.5%.
During the miners strike there were two separate national dock strikes. The first was called over non-union members unloading coal and the second when steel workers unloaded coal in Hunterston. Both strikes ended in some confusion and no attempt was made to link the struggles of the miners and the dockers.
Also during this period Liverpool City Council (lead by Militant members and other left wingers) was locked in struggle with the Tories. On 9 July the Government backed down, desperate to avoid fighting on three fronts against the miners, the dockers and the Liverpool working class. Liverpool City Council gained £8 million and was thus able to build the houses and create the jobs it had planned. This victory was only one of three inflicted on Thatcher by the working class during her period in power (the others being the miners victory in 1981 and the defeat of the Poll Tax, led by Militant in 1991).                                                                                                                                                                                                       TUC sell out   In October NACODS (the technical and supervisory staff union in the mining industry) announced a national strike after a 82.5% vote for action. NACODS called off the strike after the NCB made minor concessions. A NACODS walkout would have closed all working pits within days and brought victory close.                                                               The TUC discussed the miners’ strike for the first time in August! They promised action but delivered none. In these circumstances the left leaders should have taken unilateral action but again they did not.
Scargill missed opportunities too. When the South Wales NUM was fined £500,000 thousands of miners and supporters (including 100s of LPYS members) surrounded the area NUM HQ. The NUM should have called a for a one day general strike, over the heads of the TUC if necessary. That it did not was a major mistake. In November the NUM’s national funds were seized by courts. Again there was no call for a one day general strike.
With these opportunities missed the ruling class took the initiative. The NCB tried to lure miners back to work with an offer of a Christmas bonus. In January and February there was a slow drift back to work and the writing was on the wall.
On 3 March a national delegate conference voted 98 to 91 to return to work without a settlement. Thousands of strikers chanted "we are not going back" outside the meeting. Despite everything 100,000 of the 180,000 miners were still on strike (20,000 had never joined strike).                                                                                                                                                     Thousands of miners were arrested and thousands injured by police. 620 miners were sacked-only 38 were reinstated. Two miners died on picket lines several others in accidents on way to picket lines and a dozen miners and relatives died collecting coal from slag heaps.                                                                                                                                                                  The miners went back with their heads held high on 5 March, marching back to the collieries behind their banners. They had fought and fought hard. Ultimately they were defeated but things would never be the same again.                             The role of the state apparatus was clear for all to see. The full might of the police, MI5, and even the CIA were mobilised to break the NUM. The ruling class was prepared to go to any lengths to defeat the miners.  Violence against the miners was a routine occurrence. This was most clearly seen at the Battle of Orgreave where 3,000 police and 10,000 picketers clashed, and miners were literally beaten of the streets by cops on horseback wielding truncheons.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     The Tories spent £6 billion during the strike to defeat the NUM and would eventually spend £26 billion to devastate the mining industry. Nigel Lawson described this as "a worthwhile investment for the good of the nation", and that the Tories prepared for this battle "just like rearming to face the threat of Hitler in the 1930s".                                                                    It is important to study the events of the miners strike if we are to win the class battles of the future. Above all it illustrates the importance of activists organising in the unions and creating leaderships who understand how to mobilise the power of the working class in uncompromising battles with the government and big business.

This doesn't include the vast follow on costs, besides unemployment.
I can't see the sense in paying for unemployment when they could be working and paying into the coffers instead of taking out.... Oh of course to line the wealthy one pockets.... Plus working and making a profit EVEN if subsistide.
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