Rpra One Loft 2020 Updates .

After all the training tosses and overcomming them the returns at this time are poor to say the least, even if there was a problem along te way.

At least we have one home and dry and no duobt the other will turn up, think not enought time is given those that have a bad time from training to fully recover.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

After all the training tosses and overcomming them the returns at this time are poor to say the least, even if there was a problem along te way.

At least we have one home and dry and no duobt the other will turn up, think not enought time is given those that have a bad time from training to fully recover.

Regards.

Maybe Misty they all should have had more short tosses etc Blow home from 70 odd miles & half are still roaming the country side it appears      .

Maybe just loft Finesse. Sent and allow the program, short as it is, Yep leave it to it.
likewise the youngsters. they know where they are ... You can't teach them anything, so just send them rotating each week and plenty of rest.
Results will be every bit as good I'd wager.
If they want home, they will come. Maybe any unforeseen circumstance may out lay them. but home they will. Plus garnering an experience head. J.M.O.

well 95 just turned in so we still have 2 in the game ....cant help thinking 95 is still getting over her 2 days away from the loft same way bred have done very well for me and they stick like glue here ...93 is ticking along nicely though eh ,lets hope we dont have any unescessary training from here on in...i actually know someone in the same club as the one loft manager and was talking today with him at some length

Good news oldstrain, never had any doubt realy, as I said previosly should not have had any more training tosses after having nights out, the amount they have had is ample and could do more harm than good.

Shoud now have rest the later arrivals deserve the time to fully recover.


50% left , bet the majority have less.

Regards.

misty theres 2 millionaires in my organisation and they spend big on stock....they sent 24 - of there best no doubt and they have 8 ybs left in ....another member in my club sent 4 and had 1 left but its not showed yet so all things considered we are doing ok (ish)

oldstrain wrote:

well 95 just turned in so we still have 2 in the game ....cant help thinking 95 is still getting over her 2 days away from the loft same way bred have done very well for me and they stick like glue here ...93 is ticking along nicely though eh ,lets hope we dont have any unescessary training from here on in...i actually know someone in the same club as the one loft manager and was talking today with him at some length

Could be a blessing in disguise with 95 etc O/S . May be late as such but he is putting the miles/hrs in  seeing the country side I suspect which could just work in his favour towards end, maybe . 93 also looking good from perspective but I will not rush out just yet & spend my share of the winnings . End of the story     260 odd still missing there       at close of play, so will be interesting I suggest     what magic type of potion they will use this time around     as it's obvious       their last little magic formula didn't quite work all that good I'm   with so many still missing on the night from 70 odd miles now        .  

Yes good news

peel bros wrote:

Yes good news

True good news for our 2 etc Ray not good news thou I suggest for the 150 odd there now still trying to find home type of thing sadly . Now which brings me to another query/question who would have the responsibility of picking pigeons up in this race if they were reported somehow. Those running the race or the actual owner of the bird as such.
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Yes true  never actually thought of that one. Good question

Yes, brought this matter up several times, never got an answer.

The pigeons must be transfered to other than the fancier/fanciers involved who must be responsible for any reported stray.

My question was, what happens to reported pigeon when reported ? there must be many enter other fanciers lofts.

Even if they are reconisable from being from a OLR and fanciers fancy keeping them and not reporting them, there must be many fanciers who would report them.

My question has always been, WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM ?.

Regards.

if a lost bird gets reported its up to the rpra one loft to get them back to the loft, not the breeder / person who has entered them ......the birds are registered / transferred to the one loft .

our 3 who have gone missing are not our responsibility once they arrived at the one loft and were transferred .

Thanks David, the point is never heard of what actualy happens.

There must have been some reported but never any mention of them.

Does the OL have the right to transfer them on to a finder etc; without the fancier entering them being informed ?.

Regards.

yes misty i would think they do have the right to transfer a found pigeon, its their bird .......although i do think they collect them if within a reasonable distance , and also i would presume they have a cheaper rate from couriers to return them .

Then it would be interesting to know how often this happens and who entered the pigeons concerned.

Think an entrant has every right to know if it happens to their entry/entries.

Leaves food for thought as it has several possible implications.

Regards.

nevermind lads training tomorrow for the rpra birds

oldstrain wrote:

nevermind lads training tomorrow for the rpra birds

You may etc O/S just wonder thou how some of the late ones from the first race as such would be feeling on the subject matter .

David wrote:

if a lost bird gets reported its up to the rpra one loft to get them back to the loft, not the breeder / person who has entered them ......the birds are registered / transferred to the one loft .

our 3 who have gone missing are not our responsibility once they arrived at the one loft and were transferred .

As it should be from my perspective etc David But I have a hypothetical type of question to ask on the subject matter as such I'm   being one that knows absolutely nothing type of thing     sadly. Now, lets just say 2/4 pigeons from a  race/toss there, got caught up in a tail wind & finished up in sunny South Shields        somehow . What would it actually cost, for them to be delivered by pigeon courier back to home base, for them then to front up to more torture there maybe type of thing  .
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My concern being that it is open to many different senarios.

All fanciers are not honest, I know from personal experience some held in high regard should never be allowed in any sport.

Others have cheated at the highest level.

To put it bluntly.

The pigeons entered are obviousy from the best the fanciers concerned can enter, some costing thousands of pounds, there is nothing to stop, if David is right, for any pigeon/pigeons to be removed from the loft and transfered to a FRIEND etc;

This implies nothing other than one of the possibilities, amongst many.


Regards.

"The pigeons entered are obviousy from the best the fanciers concerned can enter, some costing thousands of pounds, there is nothing to stop, if David is right, for any pigeon/pigeons to be removed from the loft and transfered to a FRIEND etc;

This implies nothing other than one of the possibilities, amongst many."

Happens often Misty. Had a Ganus US banded pigeon here. He had sold it to another guy as a yb. 50 miles from here. Reported it to him. He said he would not pick it up. Do whatever. Not uncommon. Yet this guy was a director of the Canadian Racing Pigeon union! So it stayed and bred the following year. I kid you not when I say it beat his birds in a Fed race. Did not mention it to anyone.

halcanada81 wrote:

"The pigeons entered are obviousy from the best the fanciers concerned can enter, some costing thousands of pounds, there is nothing to stop, if David is right, for any pigeon/pigeons to be removed from the loft and transfered to a FRIEND etc;

This implies nothing other than one of the possibilities, amongst many."

Happens often Misty. Had a Ganus US banded pigeon here. He had sold it to another guy as a yb. 50 miles from here. Reported it to him. He said he would not pick it up. Do whatever. Not uncommon. Yet this guy was a director of the Canadian Racing Pigeon union! So it stayed and bred the following year. I kid you not when I say it beat his birds in a Fed race. Did not mention it to anyone.

No sense worrying about what if with these type of races I suggest. Do your head in     worrying about some thing that you have no control over etc. End of the day a certain amount of faith must be placed in the hands of those in charge    .
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Agree Knackered, 99% of fanciers involved are the salt of the earth and would never give cheating in any way a thought and one should trust until have reasons not to.

My reasoning is, if a fancoer puts his/her pigeons into a OLR he/she is entitled to know what happens to them if the circumstances are known.

There will of course be many losses without explanation.

Regards.

oldstrain wrote:

nevermind lads training tomorrow for the rpra birds

Just had a quick look etc O/S 93 knocking on the door there again & 95 hanging in there the best it can type of thing. 20 miles & still 50/60 missing also it appears .

Knackered wrote:

oldstrain wrote:

nevermind lads training tomorrow for the rpra birds

Just had a quick look etc O/S 93 knocking on the door there again & 95 hanging in there the best it can type of thing. 20 miles & still 50/60 missing also it appears .

dont hold out alot of hope for 95 tbh but 93 is doing just nicely at this stage ,lets hope he/she stays in the game i thought them both hens when they left here atb

They are both there oldstrain when many are not, so we cannot grumble and who knows if the late one has recovered from previous nights out yet, may suprize us.

Looking forward to it anyway.

Regards.