Rpra One Loft 2020 Updates .

oldstrain wrote:

you have to race all hotspots and final to qualify for ace pigeon ranking ...miss a hotspot and you are off the list end of

Maybe a wee chance etc O/S I say, for some one to just pick up a bargain as such maybe, missed totally by the radar in the final end count there .

2021 YEARLINGS RACE
September 24th, 2020
For the first time since 2015 we will be running a Yearlings One Loft Race in 2021.

Entries are limited to 250 pigeons (unless the Future of the Sport Committee rule otherwise to satisfy demand) and the allocation of spaces will be granted on a first come, first served basis, initially to entrants from the 2020 RPRA One Loft Young Birds Race.

The Entry Fee will be £200 per pigeon, and a £100 per pigeon non-refundable deposit will secure your place/s. Entries must be submitted by 9th October 2020.

Thereafter, purchasers of pigeons at the RPRA 2020 One Loft Young Bird Auction will be allowed to fill any remaining places, and these entries must be submitted by 1st December 2020. Full payment must be made by 1st February 2021.

You can download the rules and entry form below.

Download: 2021 Yearlings Race Rules & Entry Form

CURRENT LOFT LIST
September 24th, 2020
Good Evening

A busy day scanning all the birds for a current loft list and sorting into sections.

The top 10 in the final race – Ace Pigeon – 2 bird Average – 1st School pigeon these i am taking them tomorrow for there pictures to be taken.

I am also hoping to video each pigeon soon above and upload to youtube as well , they are some crackers i can tell you.

Loft list link below.

https://rpraoneloft.org/southern/young-birds/young-birds-current-loft-list/

David wrote:

2021 YEARLINGS RACE
September 24th, 2020
For the first time since 2015 we will be running a Yearlings One Loft Race in 2021.

Entries are limited to 250 pigeons (unless the Future of the Sport Committee rule otherwise to satisfy demand) and the allocation of spaces will be granted on a first come, first served basis, initially to entrants from the 2020 RPRA One Loft Young Birds Race.

The Entry Fee will be £200 per pigeon, and a £100 per pigeon non-refundable deposit will secure your place/s. Entries must be submitted by 9th October 2020.

Thereafter, purchasers of pigeons at the RPRA 2020 One Loft Young Bird Auction will be allowed to fill any remaining places, and these entries must be submitted by 1st December 2020. Full payment must be made by 1st February 2021.
You can download the rules and entry form below.

Download: 2021 Yearlings Race Rules & Entry Form

just a thought......would it make sense to enter this? Not sure how it could be funded, maybe the prizemoney offsets it?

We already have '93 racing well to this loft, it's already there with nothing to prove, deserves a second crack at it, whereas you send youngsters and anything can happen, majority of entries don't make the final.

Limited to 250 entries, narrows the field considerably.

I'm just flagging it up, just thought it worthy of a mention.

Thought along the same lines earlier on barnie.

Cannot realy understand the full implications though.

They talk about some not being from the OLR.

They must therfore have to settle pigeons that have flown to other lofts.

Ours would certainly have advantage over those.

But what about the auction, we would have to buy our own bird and then pay the entrance fee.

Cannot see how they can let you not enter the pigeon in the auction, they get half of the preceeeds.

Maybe get all the facts together.

Do not forget our champ is owned by the OL and not us.

Regards.

misty, hopefully the pigeon automatically qualifies to follow on as a yearling without having to buy it back? Agree it's not too clear, then it would be auctioned off at the end of the yearling stage if it's still there. Possibly fetch more money too, although we all know it's more about enjoyment than cash really.

I'm easy, go with majority but just thinking '93 has got something about it , a real trier, and would be a shame to cut short it's racing career?

Hope you are right barnie, I would certainly be willing to have a go, think everything would be in our favour and as you say enjoyment the name of the game.

If we can do something sooner the better 250 not a great number.

Regards.

barnie wrote:

misty, hopefully the pigeon automatically qualifies to follow on as a yearling without having to buy it back? Agree it's not too clear, then it would be auctioned off at the end of the yearling stage if it's still there. Possibly fetch more money too, although we all know it's more about enjoyment than cash really.

I'm easy, go with majority but just thinking '93 has got something about it , a real trier, and would be a shame to cut short it's racing career?

All above my intelligence factor at this stage etc to understand fully . Now if we could just find a Trump or even maybe a Boris to then explain it all to me in common type English I could just then be OK maybe.

barnie wrote:

misty, hopefully the pigeon automatically qualifies to follow on as a yearling without having to buy it back? Agree it's not too clear, then it would be auctioned off at the end of the yearling stage if it's still there. Possibly fetch more money too, although we all know it's more about enjoyment than cash really.

I'm easy, go with majority but just thinking '93 has got something about it , a real trier, and would be a shame to cut short it's racing career?

i would think so...we have to pay £200 to race 93 i am sure all entries are from this years ybs first 250 get in i guess or else yer bird goes to auction ,rpra have some ground to make up with no blackpool this year atb

Just read the Rules.

Yes all birds must be from the YB OL Race.

As barnie suggested it appears they do not go into the auction after the £200 is paid.

But if you buy one at the auction and there is room left you can enter it.

I would be willing to contribute towards letting our champ have a go.

Problem being if it is done then there will be no money from the auction of our champ towards our 2021 entries.

On consideration I think we have a very good chance with our champ but have to consider the thoughts of others and possible alternatives for those interested.


Regards.

thats the crux of the matter,what will the bird fetch at auction as opposed to re-entering it ...i can see someone buying that bird and re-entering it if we dont but its all about the balance of it all eh with money for next years entries as we only have 11 in the syndicate by the looks of things

yes it's unlikely we can enter both races, yearling and ybs 2021 as a syndicate due to cost restrictions.

It's a real pity because if anyone racing had 93 in their own loft they would be unlikely to stop racing it, in fact it would certainly be a fancied yearling for sure.

majority decision called for ?

Think we must have the YB OL for the sake of the youngsters involved.

As far as I can see the stumbling block is the auction revinue with regards to the yearling race.

Problem no- one knows just how much it would make in the auction .

The only way one could know if it actually went into the auction.

If it went into the auction and we bought it back, there is no gaurantee that it could get a place in the Yearling race, only those guaranted a place are those left in the loft and not in the auction and the limit is said to be 250 but they have said it may be increased

But I would have thought loft accomodation would determine the number.

Several possibilities if just a few are interested.

Regards.

personally i think we definitely need the dosh from the auction i cant see the bird going for less than £200 so we will get half of that ,it may do better and it may do worse but i be surprised if it never fetched that amount ,so ...with at least £100 going back in lets say for arguments sake ,and £200 entrance fee for yearling that would be £300 out of the kitty to race 93 which equates to almost 3 yb entrys ,is that value to race 1 bird ,for me it is not especially to race a cock bird on roundabout ,hens do better on that system and he wont race no other rest assured on that ,for me its a case of "if aint broke dont fix it " if we had 20 members like last year we could have all put £35 each  and entered but alas alot are not interested this year and its not gone unoticed that some have not even bothered to notice the birds efforts ...why ? probably because they are to far up there own ar$£
that they cant see for looking eh ... but the ones that matter to me took notice and thats what counts eh

Just an after thought.

If our champ made over £200, if the one who bought it wanted to enter the Yearling race, (if he/she could actually get a place) would have to pay a further £200.

????????.

Regards.

After considering all the facts, although disappointing, think oldstrsain we should concentrate on the YB OLR. as you indicate.

Regards.

Would be nice if some of the forum members would contribute in terms of all things pigeons or otherwise, everyone has something of merit to offer and what point is there in being a member and not participating ?.

There is no need to worry about making mistakes, we are all subject to doing so and other than advocating murder anything goes.

So come on in.

Regards.

Stick with YB entries next year, I think most will want this and I understand the merits, hope someone does buy '93 to race though and doesn't just take him for stock, keeps the interest going.

barnie wrote:

Stick with YB entries next year, I think most will want this and I understand the merits, hope someone does buy '93 to race though and doesn't just take him for stock, keeps the interest going.

yes i agree colin it would be nice if someone purchased it to race ,we may well end up with egg on our face its just a shame theres not more interest with syndicate entries as a whole and we could race him ourselves as these pigeons stick and would give anyone a ride for there money but finances dictate unfortunately atb

oldstrain wrote:

barnie wrote:

Stick with YB entries next year, I think most will want this and I understand the merits, hope someone does buy '93 to race though and doesn't just take him for stock, keeps the interest going.

yes i agree colin it would be nice if someone purchased it to race ,we may well end up with egg on our face its just a shame theres not more interest with syndicate entries as a whole and we could race him ourselves as these pigeons stick and would give anyone a ride for there money but finances dictate unfortunately atb

Your right there Daz just a shame the syndicate couldn't get the money together to race it as a yearling

i think that if we had maybe 20 members in the syndicate, or if the entry fee was more than the usual £25, we could have entered both ........but as we have 12 so far in the syndicate i personally think its safest to stick with young birds, we will have 12 @ £25 plus out £50 from the rpra, which will give us a total of £300 which pays for 2 entries with £50 left over.........also then our bird could make 2 - 3 hundred as its 3rd ace pigeon, which hopefully means another 2 entries.

i think if we just entered our bird into the yearling races, it would cost us £200 and have £100 left over which isnt enough to give us 1 entry into the young bird races.........so when you think about it we would miss out on half the auction money 2 - 3 hundred, and also pay £200 to enter, so the bird will stand us at £400 - £500 just for one bird in the yearling races

Also our 93 pigeon is a hen, so what system is it going to be raced on, natural, roundabout ...?  what happens if she is about to lay or just layed, she will either be sent and lost, or not sent then she is out of the ace bird list........yes too many fairiables in entering a hen into the yearling one loft for me.

it is a shame we dont have the funds to enter both, but sadly we dont .

but thats just my opinion,

update, we may have another 3 join the syndicate, so thats another £75 ......entering both may be a possibilty yet .

Be very nice if we could David, interest from start to finish having both young and old involved in the seaon.

Thought oldstrain said ours was a cock.

Be even better if a few more took an interest.

Regards.

Keep it simple. Stick with young birds. JMO.

it was listed as a cock they now say hen eh it will race very well on roundabout hens always get more out of that system ,probably no nest boxes just the sliding door and perch thing going on like ybs ...i thnik it safe to say we will have at least 4 ybs entries even with a poor auction we have 15 x £25 and £50 winnings =£425 so we only have to make up £75 from the auction as it stands for 4 yb entries and we may yet get more interest in the syndicate ,i think we should broaden our horizons a little in future and every solid syndicate member gets someone else involved from there family /freinds if they can because if we could get to a magic figure of £700 we could do the yearling thing and send 4 ybs but its all about time and getting money into mark ,as david has said if we got to £700 we could enter 4 yb and yearling thing but that seems a little out of reach to me as the main stay of the syndicate has re-entered again already it would only be outside influence that would get us to the £700 goal ...atb