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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Old birds holding corn Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:31 am | |
| Any members had any old birds holding their corn and loose droppings had it for two weeks now just like young bird sickness tried a couple of things but still the same birds look OK but still have corn next morning |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:40 am | |
| i had this a few years ago mark, never actually found out what it was .....sometimes if i wormed them they would recover, or other times darren gave me advise using certain things like ropa b and other things which also worked .........one time i had medication of nigel cowood which also worked ,
never did really get to the bottom of it, the birds either recovered or sometimes died, but thankfully ive not had it for maybe 5 years now, but am always on the lookout for the signs . |
| | | markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:46 am | |
| I'm using the avidress in the water as well changing the grit every morning spraying the corn through out each day scraping out every time I go in just one thing or another what with young bird sickness and now this makes you think why bother at all |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:03 am | |
| i used the ropa b mark, but found it far too expensive .........have now been using the avidress which darren told me about, for the past 18 month - 2 years and find its a lot cheaper and lasts longer , not sure it does anything but will continue to use it .......i suppose its like most things, we dont know for sure if they work but dont want to risk stopping using it .
one of the things nigel sent me was coli-stop which i mixed with something else, cant remember off hand but will try find out ..... |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:16 am | |
| this is what nigel said mark ,
Hi David.
From first it seems they have either streppi or e-coli ! could even have both.
Amoxycillin and/or trymethaprim is what they need. Could take upto 15 days as it goes thru the loft very slowly.
the products were coli-stop and stoppe strepp, give no grit or vitamins while treating, then a probiotic after the course.
i hope you get it sorted soon mark, its always depressing when birds are ill..... |
| | | oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:58 am | |
| i have found an odd yearling like this mark in previous years ,a type of yb sickness but as a yearling but only yearlings and they never had young bird sickness as ybs....i used belgicas 4 in 1 its specifically for gastro intestinal disorders not a canker cocci wormer like you may think its really good stuff for the job,if you have 2 year olds etc...holding corn it may just be sour crop if yer letting um sit and then removing eggs i find that some produce crop milk and it sours because they are not feeding ,especially if they over sit or eggs are taken around hatch date even sometimes if they sit pot eggs ,nystatin would be my choice for that but always give fennel tea 1 time a week to keep the crop sweet ....hope you get it sorted mark atb |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:03 am | |
| yes darren, i agree, sitting eggs and not hatching them has also been a "theory" as to why mine were ill.......this is why i never put pot eggs under them now, and prefer to just take the eggs away . |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:11 am | |
| any update on your birds mark ...? |
| | | markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:17 am | |
| They are not to bad now still not 100% not holding corn now and the droppings are firm but not tight had them on treatment only since yesterday will finish on Wednesday so will look to sending on Friday if everything is OK we will see iv heard of other fanciers with the same problem up and down the country |
| | | David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:22 am | |
| do you think they could have picked it up in the basket mark, when sent racing ...? |
| | | oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: Old birds holding corn Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:38 pm | |
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