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PostSubject: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 5:44 pm

rather than buy the pre packed pigeon products like matrix etc. i now mix my own for the past few years , I use tk conditioner, (which is basically red band), grit, red/grey. pink minerals and sometimes clay blocks .....i mix this all in and feed this every day, along with black minerals in a separate pot.

is there anything else members could suggest i could add to the mix, bearing in mine my birds do not fly out ......
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 6:26 pm

Personally never mixed anything with the basic feed.

As for grit and minerals give them options and do away with the ones they ignore, think they know better than us which is benificial for them.

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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 6:26 pm

Personally never mixed anything with the basic feed.

As for grit and minerals give them options and do away with the ones they ignore, think they know better than us which is benificial for them.

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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 6:33 pm

i dont mix this mixture with their daily corn misty, i put it in a long feeding tray alongside their daily food, so they can have the mixture if and when they want....
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 7:24 pm

Realised too late David, you gave it seperately.

Pesonally my pigeons had minerals and grit etc; available all the time, only either changed or topped up according to what it was and if it could off.

Think the pigeons know what is best for them and take what they want according to the circumstances.

Think you can over do and duplicate if not careful, see nothing wrong only a waste.

No point in changing anything David if the prsent results are OK.

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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 9:15 pm

Would not attempt to tell anyone else what to do David but a clove of garlic in the water once or twice a week would do no harm and possibly no more YBS.

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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 9:15 pm

i give all that you mention david in a wire feeder seperately in clay pots the red ones you get a pick pot in as they fit snug and it stays clean and they can pick at what they want seperately,its replenished weekend theres 5 pots 1 contains black mins 1 pink mins 1 clay 1 fo redstone and 1 for crushed oyster shell ,stock always been sound on it so must be getting all they need eh
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyThu Aug 13, 2020 11:58 pm

Which one do they like best Darren
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyFri Aug 14, 2020 9:17 am

i would say the clay and redstone steve generally but when squabs are 5 to 14 days old they go for the black mineral and when cocks are driving they go for oystershell for calcium no doubt ...i do give a carrott pellet twice a week to and beetroot tops whenever its pulled up from the garden ,just washed and poked in the wire front Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyFri Aug 14, 2020 12:26 pm

as mentioned in previous post, i always give the mixture daily, but sometimes i get the feeling they are looking for something else which isnt in there....... Suspect Suspect scratch

off to corn shop tomorrow, will see what hes got that i can add to the mix .
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyFri Aug 14, 2020 1:05 pm

Used to spread grit over the cobbles in the garden. A stange happening is, if one looking into the crop of a dead pigeon, they find Qualtz! How and where do the get it from. Can't be inbreed via parents, unless thye pick it up from somewhere. especially if prisnors.
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyFri Aug 14, 2020 2:10 pm

It is a fact that pigeons need and will pickup different minerals etc; at different times according to many things, moult, feeding young, racing, weather, off colour, sitting, etc; etc;

Their needs constantly change according to circumstances, this applies to everything connected with them.

There are only a few natural minerals that have different qualities and as long as they are availabe it matters not in what package they come.

Many of the commercialised ones can be obtained without all the interference of the manufacture, the nearer they are to their natural form the better.

If you actually look at what the constutuants are of the commercial pnes any are just duplicates under different titles.


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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptyFri Aug 14, 2020 2:12 pm

is it not in alot of the mixed grits now daz ?...alot of them have depleted in quality thats why i give redstone and oyster shell seperately as used to use a mixed grit but was put off by some of the content but then some of us are fussy buggers i suppose lol!

david....try giving in seperate pots i bet they stop that searching for something Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptySat Aug 15, 2020 4:34 pm

Wild (barn) pigeons at the grit pile. Black wf cock has been around for the last 10 years.
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptySat Aug 15, 2020 5:42 pm

crushed oyster shell for chickens, less than half price of pigeon grit and pigeons don't know difference Very Happy

A lot of these multi mixes with grits, minerals, brewers yeast etc all mixed together, fanciers think the birds are going mad at them but when you look closely it's the small oil seeds mixed in that the birds are going for, they hardly touch the grit and minerals which end up getting binned. False economy.
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PostSubject: Re: Grit, Minerals etc    Grit, Minerals etc  EmptySat Aug 15, 2020 7:35 pm

yes i think your right colin, i buy the mixed grit, red, grey type.......a few different ones in the mixture, but always find they leave some of the grit and select out of it what they want, but always eat the TK conditioner thats mixed with it .


good thing about it though is , grits not that expensive really compared to other pigeon products
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