Honey.......?

going to give honey in the water for the ybs, anyone else use it and how do they melt in into the water etc...........

herad you boil the kettle mate and melt it into the water then give it when cold i could be wrong but thats how i got told to do it

Dont put the honey in boiling wtaer as it kills the goodness out of it, put it warm water just hot enough to melt I put 1 teaspoon to a 2 liters of water I have 3 drinkers so I put 3 teaspoons to 8 lieters of water, all so lemon jues is the one you get from the supermarket just a few drops to wet the corn thats the yellow plastic or the green bottles

thanks rene, thanks ginger................going to change some things and decided to use honey instead as ive read quite a bit about it lately so will give it a try...also the lemon juice on the corn etc.

Agree with you Ginger, i always used warm water

hi don, would you prefer honey to glucose............?

Hi david and all again I use honey day of basketing as its sweetness makes them drink a little extra for the race. They really do like the taste, they also get it mixed with electrolights on race day. I have read about egyptian tombs being opened and inside jars seale up, the honey they contained still had goodness i them and was almost edible, honey has life giving and preserving properties, and guess what bacteria doesnt like it. Honey with its sugar content will never house or breed bacteria on it. its MAGIC.

ive just got something called magic from the corn man martyn, which is supposed to be for the good/bad bacteria..............so if i use honey it will do the same thing then.? how often and when do you put it in the water .....?

I used to use stuff like that MAGIC, I know you already bought it but I would chuck it, I find the simpler I have kept things the healthier the birds are, My youngsters are flying amazing this year I have won the first 2 races and toped the fed this week and I have basically just used honey and lemon juice I promise you nothing eles at all. and defo no vitamins just grit and minerals.

I give honey friday and saturday thats before and after racing but on saturday I mix it with natural,s electrolights.
Keep it simple and to a strit routeen and they will blossom.

thanks martyn, so the rest of the week its just fresh clean water......? also would you mind telling me what corn your ybs are on.....? is it a yb mix or widowhood mix ?

thanks

My youngsters are on verslaga superstar, its like a widowhood mix very light, I keep it even lighter by adding versalaga geri plus at the weekend until wednesday then basic mix(superstar) and on thurday morning and friday morning the first feed is just maize, then as much as they wnt of the superstar. as the distance gets greater I will add extra maples and peanuts as a treat.
I always give my birds small oil seeds after every mea, just a pinch each.

martyn is this gery plus like diet ? is it a complete feed in its self or a suppliment.....?

Gery plus is complete I think but most people use it as an add on to other mixes, it has the concept pellet in it, not sure about it, most birds dont eat it and there are always some left in the hoppers so it goes i the bin.

rudderfett wrote:

Gery plus is complete I think but most people use it as an add on to other mixes, it has the concept pellet in it, not sure about it, most birds dont eat it and there are always some left in the hoppers so it goes i the bin.

well done on your results so far with the yb , how much do you pay for you versal lager corn as i can pay up to £16 a bag for a 20 kg bag . as for using honey any one use honey mixed with apple cider vingar it,s even better than using honey on it,s own but you have to use it on a regular basis it puts your birds in out standing condition .

Hi Kev, I also use apple cider vinegar, you are right its very good...my corn I buy fron taylors choice on the web, I buy £500 worth at a time and its about £13 a bag average. Thats delivered.

kev d wrote:

rudderfett wrote:

Gery plus is complete I think but most people use it as an add on to other mixes, it has the concept pellet in it, not sure about it, most birds dont eat it and there are always some left in the hoppers so it goes i the bin.

well done on your results so far with the yb , how much do you pay for you versal lager corn as i can pay up to £16 a bag for a 20 kg bag . as for using honey any one use honey mixed with apple cider vingar it,s even better than using honey on it,s own but you have to use it on a regular basis it puts your birds in out standing condition .

hi kev, how often do you give the honey/cider vinegar mix.......? and on which days....?

thanks.

DAVID wrote:

kev d wrote:

rudderfett wrote:

Gery plus is complete I think but most people use it as an add on to other mixes, it has the concept pellet in it, not sure about it, most birds dont eat it and there are always some left in the hoppers so it goes i the bin.

well done on your results so far with the yb , how much do you pay for you versal lager corn as i can pay up to £16 a bag for a 20 kg bag . as for using honey any one use honey mixed with apple cider vingar it,s even better than using honey on it,s own but you have to use it on a regular basis it puts your birds in out standing condition .

hi kev, how often do you give the honey/cider vinegar mix.......? and on which days....?

thanks.

every other day one table spoon each in a 4 pint drinker .

thanks for that kev, so roughly maybe three times a week.....?

DAVID wrote:

thanks for that kev, so roughly maybe three times a week.....?

i do mon,weds ,fri,
sat, and bicarb on sunday to clean them out .

hi kev, just bought some honey today at asda, its the type which is slightly runny as i thought it would dissolve easier........will this be ok? it says 100% honey on the jar.....

also, so you give on the day of basketting....?

DAVID wrote:

hi kev, just bought some honey today at asda, its the type which is slightly runny as i thought it would dissolve easier........will this be ok? it says 100% honey on the jar.....

also, so you give on the day of basketting....?

yes i would give on day of basketing it would not harm them to have it every day , just a thought on honey one of my son,s suffers from hay fever and was advised by the doctor to take honey every day from a local source made in your local area and not commercial honey from the supper market then you know it,s pure honey with nothing added so that,s what i use from the local farmers market in town £2 just a thought realy i don,t know if it makes any differance ????

yes kev, i was going to get some as every now and then they have a farmers market in leeds town centre...................and as you say it will be pure stuff. i dont know when the next one is so i bought the asda honey until i can get the good stuff.