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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:13 pm | |
| Medicines for Racing PigeonsAs a result of the much improved knowledge of pigeons and the medications now available to manage diseases, the good fancier can enjoy a loft free of disease. The common aim is to produce the healthiest and most robust babies possible by the most natural means so that there is no compromise to the youngster’s immune system. In this way, the young birds will be naturally resistant to the illnesses associated with training and racing, and thereby require the minimal amount of medication during the racing season.Medications are used as little as possible for the healthy loft. It is very difficult for us all to maintain perfect health in the race team during the racing season and it is the good natural resistance developed during the breeding season which helps us defend the flock against illness. It is now common belief that medications are needed during the racing season if perfect form is to be maintained. However, the medications must only be used when needed. The inappropriate use of medications will in fact turn the birds "off" and break their good levels of immunity.Nowadays, the wise use of medicines is necessary for racing success. The medicines used for racing pigeons nowadays have been researched extensively so that they rarely affect the form of the fit bird and have minimal side effects for the ill bird. The correct choice of medicines is vital if the disease is to be controlled or cured in the quickest possible time. Obviously, the complete recovery of the flock is quickest when the disease is recognised and identified early. The early recognition of the illness minimises needless race bird losses and allows the birds to return to winning ways more quickly. The "preventative" medicinesIt is common knowledge that the healthy race bird is at considerable health risk in the race basket and must be protected from the "race basket" diseases by the prudent use of medicines. Medicines used in this manner are referred to as "preventative" medicines. The tired racing bird is most susceptible to disease from the racing basket and so the best time to treat in a protective manner is soon after the race.The "preventative" medicines protect the healthy race flock from respiratory disease, without affecting the form or natural resistance of the team. I often ask the fancier to monitor the response of the flock to the "preventative" respiratory medicines so that the best timing is assured. There are a few tricks in identifying when to use and when to stop using the "preventative" medicines for the "resident" health problem. Firstly, look for a loss of form, the most obvious signs of which are dropping changes, no powder down feathers on the droppings, dry feathers and a lazy lower eyelid. In those flocks with a "resident" health problem there will be a positive change in the birds the day after the preventative medicine is given. Look for a very marked "brightening" of the eye, the powder down feathers will return to an improved dropping and the feathers become silky. The process is repeated each week for 2 to 3 weeks then stopped when the positive changes fail to show. Then the preventative medication is no longer used until the early signs of loss of form again return. With this method the fancier himself becomes sole master of the health of the race team. This method of controlling a resident illness takes some time to master but once mastered becomes a very important part of controlling a resident health problem.The "curative" medicinesWhen there is a disease outbreak during the race season then "curative" (not preventative) medicines must be used. The first signs of a serious disease requiring a curative medicine are repeatedly poor race results over three weeks or heavy losses over two weeks. The exact nature of the illness must be determined then the appropriate "curative" medicine is used."Curative" medicines, by their very name, imply a dose of medicament strong enough to destroy the disease involved. Curative medicines therefore are not given to the healthy flock because they have the side effect of depressing form or affecting fertility etc. They are given only when the birds have an illness or outside the critical times of breeding or racing. They are often used in pre-season race and pre-breeding season health programs. The treatment interval (i.e. the number of days the medicine is given) is longer than that for "preventative" medicines. Preventative or control medicines are given intermittently for 1 or 2 days a week, whereas, the curative medicines are given continuously from 3 days to 45 days. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:29 am | |
| Little hard to read but still a lot of info Ian |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:29 am | |
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peel bros Oldbird
Posts : 13064 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 59 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:33 am | |
| make it a bit bigger ,too small for me |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:49 am | |
| paratyphoid and paramexo and thats it every year stock and racers canker when racing just about to start and every three weeks but thats it you can give your birds to much of whats on the market and they dont need it respatory as well coxi now and again
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:04 pm | |
| think its ok to treat as preventative before breeding and racing for things like canker, resperatory. cocci etc......and also to maybe treat during racing as we all know they can and do pick alsorts up from the baskets, altho i wouldnt be too keen to treat for every little ailment and overdo the use of antibiotics etc...... |
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robbiedoo. In egg (newbie)
Posts : 28 Join date : 2009-11-02
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:18 am | |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:19 am | |
| paratyphoid the birds get this every year 3 weeks before breeding starts. ITS a preventative canker they get evey three weeks while racing as you know most people do this anyway treat for canker when racing i was reading in pigeon book that some lads started giving there birds paratyphoid to there birds for a preventative and ever since the birds was more healthy and flew better and this year my young birds was out of the tickets 1 race only so speaks for its self as you know some lads in our club is the best young bird racers you can get very hard to beat but i did this year so from now on the birds will be geting it every year from now on stock birds as well its not cheap but if its making the birds look and fly better they will get it first year they all had it topping the fed and coming away with three young bird trophys and old bird trophy three club and one fed trophy and winning the gold ring race again two years in a row so from now on this is what they will be geting yes they do get treated for respatory that i left out yes to all of the above canker every three weeks not coxi sorry lads i allways mix them two up duuu
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:46 am | |
| you can use the same products as a preventitive and treatment, all you do is dont put them on it as long |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:59 am | |
| didnt know that ian cheers for that mate |
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robbiedoo. In egg (newbie)
Posts : 28 Join date : 2009-11-02
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:21 pm | |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| i have the best loft location in the hole fed news to me i was never told this when i wasent winning anything .now that i have i all so have the best loft location in the hole fed .this is geting better every year yer bro will be puting them out at our meal in a couple of weeks i will let you know what there all for then i got one as i won the first old bird race so i got my first trophy for my first old bird win in the club got the fed unikon trophy for topping the fed at the first english young bird race and i have another two from the club cant remember off my head what there for but once i get them in couple o weeks i will let you all know dont worry about that best loft location i thought its all about how the wind is blowing is it not or am i wrong about that theres 8 of us in the same village in the club so how come i have the best fed location or is it anyone in inverallochy thats got the best fed location DOES NOT MAKE SENSE |
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robbiedoo. In egg (newbie)
Posts : 28 Join date : 2009-11-02
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:42 pm | |
| - stormqueen wrote:
- i have the best loft location in the hole fed news to me i was never told this when i wasent winning anything .now that i have i all so have the best loft location in the hole fed .this is geting better every year yer bro will be puting them out at our meal in a couple of weeks i will let you know what there all for then i got one as i won the first old bird race so i got my first trophy for my first old bird win in the club got the fed unikon trophy for topping the fed at the first english young bird race and i have another two from the club cant remember off my head what there for but once i get them in couple o weeks i will let you all know dont worry about that best loft location i thought its all about how the wind is blowing is it not or am i wrong about that theres 8 of us in the same village in the club so how come i have the best fed location or is it anyone in inverallochy thats got the best fed location DOES NOT MAKE SENSE
gary ask bob he will tell you inverallochy is the best place in the fed to keep doos christ all mighty man the broch doos come over the top of yous then come to the broch we also give you a mile overfly .anyway i,m not getting into any arguments i like to see everybody getting a turn . by the way there is not a trophy for winning the first old bird race in the club what you will get is a minature with your name on it and any races or trophies you have won onit . by the way i should know i won 16 trophies the year i left your club and the year before that aswell not bad eh but do you see me on the computer trying to blow myself up to something i,m not . |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:07 pm | |
| am no blowing anyone up but this being the first year wining trophys am over the moon about it am very happy ya won 16 trophys no ones taking anything away from no one here the beuty about this sport ya never know how your birds are going to fly one year from the next first year i couldent win nothing second year i was in the tickets third year i was in the trophys next year i might be no where its all in the sport |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:24 pm | |
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robbiedoo. In egg (newbie)
Posts : 28 Join date : 2009-11-02
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
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robbiedoo. In egg (newbie)
Posts : 28 Join date : 2009-11-02
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:47 pm | |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sat Oct 09, 2010 7:50 pm | |
| same to you robbie go luck |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:19 am | |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:20 am | |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sun Oct 10, 2010 12:27 pm | |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 55 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:44 pm | |
| yes ian we all have our own things to say about the pigeons but at the end of the day your going to do what you see fit to do to your own birds and if its working dont change a thing |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43226 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:14 pm | |
| dont think there is a set formular to win with pigeons as all the top flyers all wont do exactly the same management system, they find something which suits them and their pigeons and stick to it..............after all there is no need to make pigeon racing harder than need be is there............? keep it simple, enjoy the hobby............. and hopefully win a few races. |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 60 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: Medicines for Racing Pigeons Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:08 pm | |
| but its a lot more than winning a few races with some people they want to win everything no matter what it involves think you know where iam coming from |
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